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ἀλλὰ ταύτῃ μὲν μηκέτι ἴωμεν— καὶ γὰρ χαλεπή τίς μοι φαίνεται ὥσπερ ὁδὸς ἡ σκέψις—ᾗ δὲ ἐτράπημεν, δοκεῖ μοι χρῆναι ἰέναι, σκοποῦντα τὰ κατὰ 214
214a
τοὺς ποιητάς· οὗτοι γὰρ ἡμῖν ὥσπερ πατέρες τῆς σοφίας εἰσὶν καὶ ἡγεμόνες. λέγουσι δὲ δήπου οὐ φαύλως ἀποφαινόμενοι περὶ τῶν φίλων, οἳ τυγχάνουσιν ὄντες· ἀλλὰ τὸν θεὸν αὐτόν φασιν ποιεῖν φίλους αὐτούς, ἄγοντα παρʼ ἀλλήλους. λέγουσι δέ πως ταῦτα, ὡς ἐγᾦμαι, ὡδί—
αἰεί τοι τὸν ὁμοῖον ἄγει θεὸς ὡς τὸν ὁμοῖον
Hom. Od. 17.218 214b
καὶ ποιεῖ γνώριμον· ἢ οὐκ ἐντετύχηκας τούτοις τοῖς ἔπεσιν;—
ἔγωγʼ,
ἔφη.—οὐκοῦν καὶ τοῖς τῶν σοφωτάτων συγγράμμασιν ἐντετύχηκας ταῦτα αὐτὰ λέγουσιν, ὅτι τὸ ὅμοιον τῷ ὁμοίῳ ἀνάγκη ἀεὶ φίλον εἶναι; εἰσὶν δέ που οὗτοι οἱ περὶ φύσεώς τε καὶ τοῦ ὅλου διαλεγόμενοι καὶ γράφοντες.—
ἀληθῆ,
ἔφη,
λέγεις.
—ἆρʼ οὖν, ἦν δʼ ἐγώ, εὖ λέγουσιν;—
ἴσως,
ἔφη.—ἴσως, ἦν δʼ ἐγώ, τὸ ἥμισυ αὐτοῦ, ἴσως δὲ καὶ πᾶν, ἀλλʼ ἡμεῖς οὐ συνίεμεν. δοκεῖ γὰρ ἡμῖν ὅ γε πονηρὸς 214c
τῷ πονηρῷ, ὅσῳ ἂν ἐγγυτέρω προσίῃ καὶ μᾶλλον ὁμιλῇ, τοσούτῳ ἐχθίων γίγνεσθαι. ἀδικεῖ γάρ· ἀδικοῦντας δὲ καὶ ἀδικουμένους ἀδύνατόν που φίλους εἶναι. οὐχ οὕτως;—
ναί,
ἦ δʼ ὅς.—ταύτῃ μὲν ἂν τοίνυν τοῦ λεγομένου τὸ ἥμισυ οὐκ ἀληθὲς εἴη, εἴπερ οἱ πονηροὶ ἀλλήλοις ὅμοιοι.—
ἀληθῆ λέγεις.
—ἀλλά μοι δοκοῦσιν λέγειν τοὺς ἀγαθοὺς ὁμοίους εἶναι ἀλλήλοις καὶ φίλους, τοὺς δὲ κακούς, ὅπερ καὶ λέγεται περὶ αὐτῶν, μηδέποτε ὁμοίους μηδʼ αὐτοὺς αὑτοῖς εἶναι, ἀλλʼ 214d
ἐμπλήκτους τε καὶ ἀσταθμήτους· ὃ δὲ αὐτὸ αὑτῷ ἀνόμοιον εἴη καὶ διάφορον, σχολῇ γέ τῳ ἄλλῳ ὅμοιον ἢ φίλον γένοιτʼ ἄν. ἢ οὐ καὶ σοὶ δοκεῖ οὕτως;—
ἔμοιγʼ,
ἔφη.—τοῦτο τοίνυν αἰνίττονται, ὡς ἐμοὶ δοκοῦσιν, ὦ ἑταῖρε, οἱ τὸ ὅμοιον τῷ ὁμοίῳ φίλον λέγοντες, ὡς ὁ ἀγαθὸς τῷ ἀγαθῷ μόνος μόνῳ φίλος, ὁ δὲ κακὸς οὔτε ἀγαθῷ οὔτε κακῷ οὐδέποτε εἰς ἀληθῆ φιλίαν ἔρχεται. συνδοκεῖ σοι;—κατένευσεν.—ἔχομεν ἄρα ἤδη τίνες εἰσὶν οἱ φίλοι· ὁ γὰρ λόγος ἡμῖν 214e
σημαίνει ὅτι οἳ ἂν ὦσιν ἀγαθοί.—
πάνυ γε,
ἔφη,
δοκεῖ.
καὶ ἐμοί, ἦν δʼ ἐγώ. καίτοι δυσχεραίνω τί γε ἐν αὐτῷ· φέρε οὖν, ὦ πρὸς Διός, ἴδωμεν τί καὶ ὑποπτεύω. ὁ ὅμοιος τῷ ὁμοίῳ καθʼ ὅσον ὅμοιος φίλος, καὶ ἔστιν χρήσιμος ὁ τοιοῦτος τῷ τοιούτῳ; μᾶλλον δὲ ὧδε· ὁτιοῦν ὅμοιον ὁτῳοῦν ὁμοίῳ τίνα ὠφελίαν ἔχειν ἢ τίνα βλάβην ἂν ποιῆσαι δύναιτο, ὃ μὴ καὶ αὐτὸ αὑτῷ;
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1 |
w |
1518 |
| γε |
8 |
w |
1520 |
| ἔφη |
5 |
w |
1524 |
| δοκεῖ |
5 |
w |
1530 |
| καὶ |
15 |
w |
1534 |
| ἐμοί |
1 |
w |
1538 |
| ἦν |
3 |
w |
1541 |
| δʼ |
5 |
w |
1543 |
| ἐγώ |
3 |
w |
1546 |
| καίτοι |
1 |
w |
1553 |
| δυσχεραίνω |
1 |
w |
1563 |
| τί |
3 |
w |
1565 |
| γε |
9 |
w |
1567 |
| ἐν |
3 |
w |
1569 |
| αὐτῷ |
1 |
w |
1573 |
| φέρε |
1 |
w |
1578 |
| οὖν |
2 |
w |
1581 |
| ὦ |
3 |
w |
1583 |
| πρὸς |
1 |
w |
1587 |
| Διός |
1 |
w |
1591 |
| ἴδωμεν |
1 |
w |
1598 |
| τί |
4 |
w |
1600 |
| καὶ |
16 |
w |
1603 |
| ὑποπτεύω |
1 |
w |
1611 |
| ὁ |
12 |
w |
1613 |
| ὅμοιος |
1 |
w |
1619 |
| τῷ |
7 |
w |
1621 |
| ὁμοίῳ |
3 |
w |
1626 |
| καθʼ |
1 |
w |
1630 |
| ὅσον |
1 |
w |
1634 |
| ὅμοιος |
2 |
w |
1640 |
| φίλος |
2 |
w |
1645 |
| καὶ |
17 |
w |
1649 |
| ἔστιν |
1 |
w |
1654 |
| χρήσιμος |
1 |
w |
1662 |
| ὁ |
14 |
w |
1663 |
| τοιοῦτος |
1 |
w |
1671 |
| τῷ |
8 |
w |
1673 |
| τοιούτῳ |
1 |
w |
1680 |
| μᾶλλον |
2 |
w |
1687 |
| δὲ |
8 |
w |
1689 |
| ὧδε |
1 |
w |
1692 |
| ὁτιοῦν |
1 |
w |
1699 |
| ὅμοιον |
4 |
w |
1705 |
| ὁτῳοῦν |
1 |
w |
1711 |
| ὁμοίῳ |
4 |
w |
1716 |
| τίνα |
1 |
w |
1720 |
| ὠφελίαν |
1 |
w |
1727 |
| ἔχειν |
1 |
w |
1732 |
| ἢ |
4 |
w |
1733 |
| τίνα |
2 |
w |
1737 |
| βλάβην |
1 |
w |
1743 |
| ἂν |
4 |
w |
1745 |
| ποιῆσαι |
1 |
w |
1752 |
| δύναιτο |
1 |
w |
1759 |
| ὃ |
2 |
w |
1761 |
| μὴ |
1 |
w |
1763 |
| καὶ |
18 |
w |
1766 |
| αὐτὸ |
2 |
w |
1770 |
| αὑτῷ |
2 |
w |
1774 |