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AEACUS

This is Solon, the son of Execestides, and that is Thales, and past them is Pittacus, and the others; they are seven in all, as you see.

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MENIPPUS

These are the only happy and cheerful ones, Aeacus. But who is this covered with cinders, like a loaf baked in the ashes, and with such a crop of blisters on his skin?

AEACUS

Empedocles; he came half-boiled from Etna.

MENIPPUS

O brazen-foot [*] most excellent, what came over you that you jumped into the crater?

EMPEDOCLES

A fit of mad depression, Menippus.

MENIPPUS

No, but a fit of vanity and pride and a dose of drivelling folly; that was what burnt you to ashes, boots and alland well you deserved it! But the trick didnt do you any good; they found out that you were dead. But wherever, Aeacus, is Socrates?

AEACUS

Usually hes talking nonsense with Nestor and Palamedes.

MENIPPUS

However, I should like to see him, if hes around.

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AEACUS

Do you see the bald one?

MENIPPUS

Theyre all bald; that distinguishing feature would apply to them all.

AEACUS

I mean the one with the snub nose.

MENIPPUS

This too they have in common; theyre all snub-nosed.

SOCRATES

Looking for me, Menippus?

MENIPPUS

Yes, I am, Socrates.

SOCRATES

Whats the news in Athens?

MENIPPUS

Many of the young men call themselves Philosophers, and, to judge at least from their garb and gait, are tiptop Philosophers.

SOCRATES

Ive seen lots of them.

MENIPPUS

But youve seen, I imagine, what Aristippus was like when he came to join you, or Plato himselfthe one reeking of scent, the other accomplished in flattering Sicilian tyrants.

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SOCRATES

And what do they think of me?

MENIPPUS

In these respects at least, youre a lucky fellow, Socrates. At any rate they all think you were a wonderful man, and knew everything, thoughI think Im right in saying soyou knew nothing.

SOCRATES

Thats what I myself kept telling them, but they thought it was all pretence on my part.

MENIPPUS

But who are these round you?

SOCRATES

Charmides, my good fellow, and Phaedrus and Clinias son. [*]

MENIPPUS

Bravo, Socrates! Still following your own special line here! Still with an eye for beauty!

SOCRATES

What could I find to do more agreeable? But wont you lie down by us, please?

MENIPPUS

Oh, no; Im going off to Croesus and Sardanapalus, to stay near them. I expect to have plenty of fun hearing their lamentations.

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AEACUS

Im off now, too, to see that none of the dead gives us the slip and escapes. Youll see things in full another time, Menippus.

MENIPPUS

Off with you, Aeacus. What Ive seen is enough.

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Menippus And Tantalus
MENIPPUS

Why are you crying, Tantalus? Why do you stand beside [*] the lake lamenting your lot?

TANTALUS

Because, Menippus, Im dying of thirst.

MENIPPUS

Are you too lazy to bend your head down and drink, or even, bless us, to scoop the water up with your palm?

TANTALUS

Its no good bending down; the water runs away as soon as it feels me coming near, and, if ever I do scoop up any, and bring it to my mouth, I cant wet the tip of my lips before it runs through my fingers somehow and leaves my hand dry as before.

MENIPPUS

Youre the victim of a miracle, Tantalus. But tell me, just why do you need to drink? You have

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no body, for thats been buried in Lydia. That could feel hunger and thirst. But you are a ghost; how can you still be thirsty or able to drink?

TANTALUS

Its just that thats my punishmentthat my ghost should be thirsty as if it were a body.

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