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HERMES

Ah, but you never saw the woman alive, Menippus, or you would have said yourself that it was forgivable that they for such a lady long should suffer woe”. [*] For if one sees flowers that are dried up and faded, they will, of course, appear ugly; but when they are in bloom and have their colour, they are very beautiful.

v.7.p.25
MENIPPUS

Well, Hermes, what does surprise me is this: that the Achaeans didnt know how short-lived a thing they strove for, and how soon it loses its bloom.

HERMES

I have no time to moralise with you, Menippus. Choose a place to lie down in, wherever you like, and Ill be off now to fetch the other shades.

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Menippus And Aeacus
MENIPPUS

I ask you, Aeacus, in the name of Pluto, to conduct me round every thing in Hades.

AEACUS

Its not easy to do it all, Menippus, but Ill show you the chief things. This is Cerberus, as you know, and on your way in youve already seen the ferryman here who brought you over, and the lake and Pyriphlegethon.

MENIPPUS

I know all that and that you are the gate-keeper, and Ive seen the king and the Furies. But show me the men of old, and particularly the famous ones.

v.7.p.27
AEACUS

This is Agamemnon, and this Achilles, here is Idomeneus close by, and here Odysseus, then come Ajax, Diomede and the finest of the Greeks.

MENIPPUS

Dear me, Homer, how the central figures of your epics have been cast to the ground and lie unrecognisable and ugly, all so much dust and rubbish, strengthless heads [*] in very truth! But who is this, Aeacus?

AEACUS

Cyrus, and this is Croesus, and the one beyond him Sardanapalus, and beyond them Midas, and that one is Xerxes.

MENIPPUS

Then you, you scum, were the terror of Hellas? You bridged the Hellespont, and wanted to sail through the mountains? [*] And what a sight Croesus is! And, Aeacus, let me slap the face of Sardanapalus.

AEACUS

Dont, youre breaking his skull; its as weak as a womans.

MENIPPUS

Then at least Ill have a good spit at him, since hes as much woman as man.

v.7.p.29
AEACUS

Would you like me to show you the Philosophers?

MENIPPUS

Oh yes, please.

AEACUS

Here first you have Pythagoras.

MENIPPUS

Good day to you, Euphorbus or Apollo, or whatever name you prefer. [*]

PYTHAGORAS

And a bad day to you, Menippus.

MENIPPUS

Dont you still have your thigh of gold? [*]

PYTHAGORAS

No; but let me see if theres anything to eat in your wallet.

MENIPPUS

Beans, my good fellowsomething you mustnt eat.

PYTHAGORAS

Just give me some. Doctrines are different among the dead; Ive learnt that beans and parents heads [*] are not the same thing here.

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