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LYCINUS

Well then, please teach me this first, how, right at the beginning, we can distinguish the best, the true philosophy, the one we must choose, leaving aside the others.

v.6.p.291
HERMOTIMUS

I will tell you. I saw that most people took to this one, so I guessed it was the best.

LYCINUS

How many more Stoics are there than Epicureans or Platonists or Peripatetics? You obviously took a count of them as in a show of hands.

HERMOTIMUS

I didnt count. I made an estimate.

LYCINUS

So you are not prepared to teach me. You are cheating when you tell me you decide such a matter by guesswork and weight of numbers. Youre hiding the truth from me.

HERMOTIMUS

It wasnt just that, Lycinus. I also heard everybody saying that the Epicureans were sensual and lovers of pleasure, that the Peripatetics loved riches and wrangling, and that the Platonists were puffed up and loved glory. But a lot of people said that the Stoics were manly and understood everything and that the man who went this way was the only king, the only rich man, the only wise man, and everything rolled into one.

LYCINUS

These were obviously other peoples opinions on the schools. You wouldnt have simply believed the respective adherents when they praised their own schools.

v.6.p.293
HERMOTIMUS

Certainly not; these were other peoples opinions.

LYCINUS

Not their rivals opinions, I suppose?

HERMOTIMUS

No.

LYCINUS

Laymens opinions?

HERMOTIMUS

Yes.

LYCINUS

You see how once again you are cheating me and not telling the truth. You think you are talking with some Margites [*] who is ready to believe that Hermotimus, an intelligent man forty years of age, on philosophy and philosophers believed the opinions of laymen and made his choice of the better creed accordingly. I refuse to believe you when you say things like that.

HERMOTIMUS

But you know, Lycinus, I did rely on myself as well as others. I used to see the Stoics walking with dignity, decently dressed, always thoughtful, manly in looks, most of them close-cropped; there was nothing effeminate, none of that exaggerated indifference which stamps the genuine crazy Cynic.

v.6.p.295
They seemed in a state of moderation and everyone says that is best.

LYCINUS

Did you see them behaving also as I said just now I saw your master behaving, Hermotimus? I mean lending money and making bitter demands to be repaid, quarrelsome and most contentious in conversations and generally showing off as they usually do? Or is this of little importance to you, so long as the dress is decent, the beard long, and the hair close-cropped? Then this is to be our strict rule and law for the future in these matters according to Hermotimus: we are to distinguish the best men by their appearance, their walk, and their hair, and whosoever has not these signs and does not look sulky and meditative is to be spurned and rejected!

Youre surely making fun of me, Hermotimus; youre trying to see if I can spot the catch.

HERMOTIMUS

Why do you say that?

LYCINUS

Because, my dear friend, this test of yours from appearances is for statues. They at any rate are much more prepossessing and comely in their dress, if a Phidias or Alcamenes or Myron has made them in the most handsome style. But if these are the surest, critical tests, what would a blind man do if he wanted to take up philosophy? How does he recognise the one who has made the better choicehe can see neither bearing nor gait?

v.6.p.297
HERMOTIMUS

My argument is not addressed to the blind, Lycinus, and I have no interest in them.

LYCINUS

But, my good sir, there should be some accepted criterion in matters so important and valuable to everyone. However, if you prefer, let the blind keep clear of philosophy since they cannot seeyet they of all people really should take up philosophy: then they would not be completely overwhelmed by their misfortune. Well then, those who can see: however sharp-sighted they may be, what can they detect of the qualities of the soul from this outer covering?

What I wish to say is this: was it not love of the mind of these men that attracted you to them, and didnt you expect to be improved in your mental powers?

HERMOTIMUS

Most certainly.

LYCINUS

Then how could you distinguish the true philosopher from the false by the marks you mentioned? Such things are not usually shown in that way; they are secret and not visible, showing themselves in conversation and discussion and corresponding action, and then only with difficulty and after a long period. You have heard, I suppose, what faults Momus found in Hephaestus; if not Ill tell you. The story goes that Athena, Poseidon, and Hephaestus were quarrelling over which of them was the best artist. Poseidon modelled a bull, Athena designed a house, while Hephaestus, it seems, put together a man. When

v.6.p.299
they came to Momus, whom they had appointed judge, he examined the work of each. What faults he found in the other two we need not say, but his criticism of the man and his reproof of the craftsman, Hephaestus, was this: he had not made windows in his chest which could be opened to let everyone see his desires and thoughts and if he were lying or telling the truth. Momus, of course, being shortsighted, held such notions about men, but you have better sight than Lynceus and, it seems, see through the chest to what is inside, and everything is revealed to you, and you know not only what each man wants and thinks, but also who is better or worse.

HERMOTIMUS

You are joking, Lycinus. I chose with Gods help and I have no regrets.

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