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Zeus Tragoedus (31-35)

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Apollo

Who lists may hear Apollos soothfast rede
Of stiff debate, heroic challenge ringing.
Shrill, and each headpiece lined with fence of proof..
Alternate clack the strokes in whirling strife;.
Sore buffeted, quakes and shivers heart of oak..
But when grasshopper feels the vultures talons,.
Then the storm-boding ravens croak their last,.
Prevail the mules, butts his swift foals the ass..

Zeus

Why that ribald laughter, Momus? It is no laughing matter. Stop, stop, fool; you'll choke yourself.

Momus

Well, such a clear simple oracle puts one in spirits.

Zeus

Indeed? Then perhaps you will kindly expound it.

v.3.p.95

Momus

No need of a Themistocles this time; it is absolutely plain. The oracle just says in so many words that he is a quack, and we pack-asses (quite true) and mules to believe in him; we have not as much sense, it adds, as a grasshopper.

Heracles

Father, I am only an alien, but I am not afraid to give my opinion, Let them begin their debate. Then, if Timocles gets the best of it, we can let the meeting go on, in our own interest; on the other hand, if things look bad, I will give the Portico a shake, if you like, and bring it down on Damis; a confounded fellow like that is not to insult us.

Zeus

Now by HeraclesI can swear by you, I certainly cannot swear by your planwhat a crudewhat a shockingly philistine suggestion! What! destroy all those people for one mans wickedness? and the Portico thrown in, with the Miltiades and Cynaegirus on the field of Marathon? Why, if these were ruined, how could the orators ever make another speech, with the best of their stock-in-trade taken from them? Besides, while you were alive, you might possibly have done a thing like that; but now that you are a God, you surely understand that only the Fates are competent, and we cannot interfere?

Heracles

Then when I slew the lion or the Hydra, was I only the Fates instrument?

Zeus

Of course you were.

Heracles

And now, suppose any one insults me, or robs my temple, or upsets an image of me, am I not to pulverize him, just because the Fates have not decreed it long ago?.

Zeus

Certainly not.

Heracles

Then allow me to speak my mind; Im a blunt man; I call a spade a spade. If this is the state of things with you, good-bye for me to your honours and altar-steam and fat of victims; I shall be off to Hades, There, if I:show my bow ready for action, the ghosts of the monsters I have slain will be frightened, at least.

v.3.p.96
Zeus. Oh, splendid! Thine own lips testify against thee,’ says the book; you would have saved Damis some trouble by putting this in his mouth.

Heracles

But who is this breathless messenger? Bronzea nice clean figure and outlinechevelure rather out of date. Ah, he must be your brother, Hermes, who stands in the Market by the Poecile; I see he is all over pitch; that is what comes of having casts taken of you every day. My son, why this haste? Have you important news from Earth?

Hermagoras

Momentous news, calling for infinite energy.

Zeus

Speak, tarry not, if any peril else hath escaped our vigilance.

Hermagoras

It chanced of late that by the statuaries
My breast and back were plastered oer with pitch;
A mock cuirass tight-clinging hung, to ape
My bronze, and take the seal of its impression.
When lo, a crowd! therein a pallid pair
Sparring amain, vociferating logic;
'Twas Damis and

Zeus

Truce to your iambics, my excellent Hermagoras; I know the pair. But tell me whether the fight has been going on long.

Hermagoras

Not yet; they were still skirmishingslinging invective at long range.

Zeus

Then we have only, Gods, to look over and listen. Let the Hours unbar, draw back the clouds, and open the doors of Heaven.

Zeus

Upon my word, what a vast gathering! And I do not quite like the looks of Timocles; he is trembling; he has lost his head; he will spoil everything; it is perfectly plain, he will not be able to stand up to Damis. Well, there is one thing left us: we can pray for him Inwardly, silently, lest Damis hear.

v.3.p.97

Timocles

What, you miscreant, no Gods? no Providence?

Damis

No, no; you answer my question first; what makes you believe in them?

Timocles

None of that, now; the onus probandi is with you, scoundrel.

Damis

None of that, now; it is with you.

Zeus

At this game ours is much the better manloudervoiced, rougher-tempered. Good, Timocles; stick to invective; that is your strong point; once you get off that, he will hook and hold you up like a fish.

Timocles

I solemnly swear I will not answer first.

Damis

Well, put your questions, then; so much you score by your oath, But xo abuse, please.

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