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Hermagoras

Now here is another problem. Both bronze, equal aesthetically, being both from Lysippuss studio, and, to crown all, nothing to choose between them for birthtwo sons of yours, ZeusDionysus and Heracles. Which is to be first? You can see for yourself, they mean to stand upon their order.

Zeus

We are wasting time, Hermes; the debate should have been in full swing by now. Tell them to sit anyhow, according to taste; we will have an ad boc meeting another day, and then I shall know how to settle the question of precedence.

v.3.p.86

Hermagoras

My goodness, what a noise! what low vulgar bawling! listen—'Hurry up with that carving!’ Do pass the nectar!’ Why no more ambrosia?’ When are those hecatombs coming?’ Here, shares in that victim!’

Zeus

Call them to order, Hermes; this nonsense must cease, before I can give them the order of the day.

Hermagoras

They do not all know Greek; and I havent the gift of tongues, to make myself understood by Scythians and Persians and Thracians and Celts. Perhaps I had better hold up my hand and signal for silence.

Zeus

Do.

Hermagoras

Good; they areas quiet as if they were so many teachers of elocution. Now is the time for your speech; see, they are all hanging on your lips.

Zeus

Whythere is something wrong with meHermes, my boyI will be frank with you. You know how confident and impressive I always was as a public speaker?

Hermagoras

I know; I used to bein such a fright; you threatened sometimes to let down your golden cord and heave up earth and sea from their foundations, Gods included.

Zeus

But to-day, my childit may be this terrible crisis it may be the size of the audiencethere is a vast number of Gods here, isnt thereanyhow, my thoughts are all mixed, I shiver, my tongue seems tied, What is most absurd of all, my exordium is gone clean out of my head; and I had prepared it on purpose to produce a good impression at the start.

Hermagoras

You have spoiled everything, Zeus. They cannot make out your silence; they are expecting to hear of some terrible disaster, to account for your delay.

Zeus

What do you think? Reel off the exordium in Homer?

Hermagoras

Which one?

Zeus

Lend me your ears, Gods all and Goddesses.

v.3.p.87

Hermagoras

Rubbish! you made quite exhibition enough of yourself in that vein in our cabinet council. However, you might, if you like, drop your metrical fustian, and adapt any one of Demostheness Philippics with a few alterations. That is:the fashionable method with speakers nowadays.

Zeus

Ah, that is a royal road to eloquencesimplifies matters very much for a man in difficulties.

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