Scaife ATLAS

CTS Library / Zeus Rants

Zeus Rants (17-18)

urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng2:17-18
Refs {'start': {'reference': '17', 'human_reference': 'Section 17'}, 'end': {'reference': '18', 'human_reference': 'Section 18'}}
Ancestors []
Children []
prev
plain textXML
next
ZEUS

Their whole discussion was about us. That confounded Damis asserted that we do not exercise any providence in behalf of men and do not oversee what goes on among them, saying nothing less than that we do not exist at all (for that isof course what

v.2.p.117
his argument implied), and there were some who applauded him. The other, however, I mean Timocles, was on our side and fought for us and got angry and took our part in every way, praising our management and telling how we govern and direct everything in the appropriate order and system; and he too had some who applauded him. But finally he grew tired and began to speak badly and the crowd began to turn admiring eyes on Damis; so, seeing the danger, I ordered night to close in and break up the conference. They went away, therefore, after agreeing to carry the dispute to a conclusion the next day, and I myself, going along with the crowd, overheard them praising Damis views on their way home and even then far preferring his side: there were some, however, who recommended them not to condemn the other side in advance but to wait and see what Timocles would say the next day.

ZEUS

That is why I called you together, gods, and it is no trivial reason if you consider that all our honour and glory and revenue comes from men, and if they are convinced either that there are no gods at all or that if there are they have no thought of men, we shall be without sacrifices, without presents and without honours on earth and shall sit idle in Heaven in the grip of famine, choused out of our old-time feasts and celebrations and games and sacrifices and vigils and processions. Such being the issue, I say that all must try to think out something to save the situation for us, so that Timocles will win and be thought to have the truth on his side of the argument and Damis will be laughed to scorn by the audience: for I have very little confidence that

v.2.p.119
Timocles will win by himself if he has not our backing. Therefore make your lawful proclamation, Hermes, so that they may arise and give counsel.

HERMES

Hark! Hush! No noise! Who of the gods in full standing that have the right to speak wants to do so? Whats this? Nobody arises? Are you dumfounded by the greatness of the issues presented, that you hold your tongues?

Tokens

ZEUS 1 w 4
Their 1 w 9
whole 1 w 14
discussion 1 w 24
was 1 w 27
about 1 w 32
us 2 w 34
That 1 w 39
confounded 1 w 49
Damis 1 w 54
asserted 1 w 62
that 1 w 66
we 1 w 68
do 1 w 70
not 1 w 73
exercise 1 w 81
any 1 w 84
providence 1 w 94
in 1 w 96
behalf 1 w 102
of 1 w 104
men 1 w 107
and 1 w 110
do 2 w 112
not 2 w 115
oversee 1 w 122
what 1 w 126
goes 1 w 130
on 3 w 132
among 1 w 137
them 1 w 141
saying 1 w 148
nothing 1 w 155
less 1 w 159
than 1 w 163
that 2 w 167
we 2 w 169
do 3 w 171
not 4 w 174
exist 1 w 179
at 5 w 181
all 1 w 184
for 1 w 188
that 3 w 192
isof 1 w 196
course 1 w 202
what 2 w 206
his 1 w 209
argument 1 w 217
implied 1 w 224
and 2 w 229
there 1 w 234
were 1 w 238
some 1 w 242
who 2 w 245
applauded 1 w 254
him 1 w 257
The 2 w 261
other 1 w 266
however 1 w 274
I 1 w 276
mean 1 w 280
Timocles 1 w 288
was 2 w 292
on 5 w 294
our 2 w 297
side 1 w 301
and 3 w 304
fought 1 w 310
for 2 w 313
us 3 w 315
and 4 w 318
got 1 w 321
angry 1 w 326
and 5 w 329
took 1 w 333
our 3 w 336
part 1 w 340
in 4 w 342
every 1 w 347
way 1 w 350
praising 1 w 359
our 4 w 362
management 1 w 372
and 6 w 375
telling 1 w 382
how 2 w 385
we 5 w 387
govern 1 w 393
and 7 w 396
direct 1 w 402
everything 1 w 412
in 8 w 414
the 4 w 417
appropriate 1 w 428
order 1 w 433
and 8 w 436
system 1 w 442
and 9 w 446
he 7 w 448
too 2 w 451
had 1 w 454
some 2 w 458
who 3 w 461
applauded 2 w 470
him 2 w 473
But 1 w 477
finally 1 w 484
he 8 w 486
grew 1 w 490
tired 1 w 495
and 10 w 498
began 1 w 503
to 3 w 505
speak 1 w 510
badly 1 w 515
and 11 w 518
the 5 w 521
crowd 1 w 526
began 2 w 531
to 4 w 533
turn 1 w 537
admiring 1 w 545
eyes 1 w 549
on 6 w 551
Damis 2 w 556
so 4 w 559
seeing 1 w 566
the 6 w 569
danger 1 w 575
I 2 w 577
ordered 1 w 584
night 1 w 589
to 5 w 591
close 1 w 596
in 12 w 598
and 12 w 601
break 1 w 606
up 1 w 608
the 7 w 611
conference 1 w 621
They 1 w 626
went 1 w 630
away 1 w 634
therefore 1 w 644
after 1 w 650
agreeing 1 w 658
to 6 w 660
carry 1 w 665
the 9 w 668
dispute 1 w 675
to 7 w 677
a 60 w 678
conclusion 1 w 688
the 10 w 691
next 1 w 695
day 1 w 698
and 13 w 702
I 3 w 703
myself 1 w 709
going 1 w 715
along 1 w 720
with 1 w 724
the 11 w 727
crowd 2 w 732
overheard 1 w 742
them 2 w 746
praising 2 w 754
Damis 3 w 759
views 1 w 765
on 11 w 767
their 1 w 772
way 3 w 775
home 1 w 779
and 14 w 782
even 1 w 786
then 1 w 790
far 1 w 793
preferring 1 w 803
his 2 w 806
side 2 w 810
there 3 w 816
were 2 w 820
some 3 w 824
however 2 w 832
who 4 w 836
recommended 1 w 847
them 3 w 851
not 5 w 854
to 8 w 856
condemn 1 w 863
the 17 w 866
other 2 w 871
side 3 w 875
in 17 w 877
advance 1 w 884
but 1 w 887
to 9 w 889
wait 1 w 893
and 15 w 896
see 3 w 899
what 3 w 903
Timocles 2 w 911
would 1 w 916
say 2 w 919
the 19 w 922
next 2 w 926
day 2 w 929
ZEUS 2 w 934
That 2 w 938
is 13 w 940
why 1 w 943
I 4 w 944
called 1 w 950
you 1 w 953
together 1 w 961
gods 1 w 966
and 16 w 970
it 3 w 972
is 14 w 974
no 6 w 976
trivial 1 w 983
reason 1 w 989
if 1 w 991
you 2 w 994
consider 1 w 1002
that 4 w 1006
all 4 w 1009
our 5 w 1012
honour 1 w 1018
and 17 w 1021
glory 1 w 1026
and 18 w 1029
revenue 1 w 1036
comes 1 w 1041
from 1 w 1045
men 5 w 1048
and 19 w 1052
if 2 w 1054
they 1 w 1058
are 1 w 1061
convinced 1 w 1070
either 1 w 1076
that 5 w 1080
there 4 w 1085
are 2 w 1088
no 8 w 1090
gods 2 w 1094
at 13 w 1096
all 5 w 1099
or 7 w 1101
that 6 w 1105
if 3 w 1107
there 5 w 1112
are 3 w 1115
they 2 w 1119
have 1 w 1123
no 9 w 1125
thought 1 w 1132
of 3 w 1134
men 6 w 1137
we 9 w 1140
shall 1 w 1145
be 4 w 1147
without 1 w 1154
sacrifices 1 w 1164
without 2 w 1172
presents 1 w 1180
and 20 w 1183
without 3 w 1190
honours 1 w 1197
on 18 w 1199
earth 1 w 1204
and 21 w 1207
shall 2 w 1212
sit 1 w 1215
idle 1 w 1219
in 19 w 1221
Heaven 1 w 1227
in 20 w 1229
the 26 w 1232
grip 1 w 1236
of 4 w 1238
famine 1 w 1244
choused 1 w 1252
out 5 w 1255
of 5 w 1257
our 8 w 1260
old-time 1 w 1268
feasts 1 w 1274
and 22 w 1277
celebrations 1 w 1289
and 23 w 1292
games 1 w 1297
and 24 w 1300
sacrifices 2 w 1310
and 25 w 1313
vigils 1 w 1319
and 26 w 1322
processions 1 w 1333
Such 1 w 1338
being 1 w 1343
the 27 w 1346
issue 1 w 1351
I 5 w 1353
say 3 w 1356
that 7 w 1360
all 8 w 1363
must 1 w 1367
try 1 w 1370
to 11 w 1372
think 1 w 1377
out 6 w 1380
something 1 w 1389
to 12 w 1391
save 1 w 1395
the 28 w 1398
situation 1 w 1407
for 4 w 1410
us 7 w 1412
so 8 w 1415
that 8 w 1419
Timocles 3 w 1427
will 1 w 1431
win 1 w 1434
and 27 w 1437
be 6 w 1439
thought 2 w 1446
to 13 w 1448
have 2 w 1452
the 29 w 1455
truth 1 w 1460
on 22 w 1462
his 3 w 1465
side 5 w 1469
of 6 w 1471
the 30 w 1474
argument 2 w 1482
and 28 w 1485
Damis 4 w 1490
will 2 w 1494
be 7 w 1496
laughed 1 w 1503
to 14 w 1505
scorn 1 w 1510
by 1 w 1512
the 31 w 1515
audience 1 w 1523
for 5 w 1527
I 6 w 1528
have 3 w 1532
very 3 w 1536
little 1 w 1542
confidence 1 w 1552
that 9 w 1556
Timocles 4 w 1564
will 3 w 1568
win 2 w 1571
by 2 w 1573
himself 1 w 1580
if 6 w 1582
he 39 w 1584
has 1 w 1587
not 6 w 1590
our 9 w 1593
backing 1 w 1600
Therefore 1 w 1610
make 1 w 1614
your 1 w 1618
lawful 1 w 1624
proclamation 1 w 1636
Hermes 1 w 1643
so 9 w 1646
that 10 w 1650
they 3 w 1654
may 1 w 1657
arise 1 w 1662
and 29 w 1665
give 1 w 1669
counsel 1 w 1676
HERMES 1 w 1683
Hark 1 w 1687
Hush 1 w 1692
No 1 w 1695
noise 1 w 1700
Who 1 w 1704
of 7 w 1706
the 33 w 1709
gods 3 w 1713
in 28 w 1715
full 1 w 1719
standing 1 w 1727
that 11 w 1731
have 4 w 1735
the 34 w 1738
right 1 w 1743
to 15 w 1745
speak 2 w 1750
wants 1 w 1755
to 16 w 1757
do 4 w 1759
so 10 w 1761
What 1 w 1766
s 101 w 1768
this 1 w 1772
Nobody 1 w 1779
arises 1 w 1785
Are 1 w 1789
you 4 w 1792
dumfounded 1 w 1802
by 3 w 1804
the 35 w 1807
greatness 1 w 1816
of 8 w 1818
the 36 w 1821
issues 1 w 1827
presented 1 w 1836
that 12 w 1841
you 5 w 1844
hold 1 w 1848
your 2 w 1852
tongues 1 w 1859