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There would be much more justice, though,
he replied,
in my beating yours, for being so ill-advised as to beget clever sons like you. Yet I doubt,
Ctesippus went on,
if your father, Euthydemus—the puppies’ father—has derived much good from this wisdom of yours.
Why, he has no need of much good, Ctesippus, neither he nor you.
And have you no need either, yourself, Euthydemus?
he asked.
No, nor has any other man. Just tell me, Ctesippus,
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whether you think it good for a sick man to drink physic when he wants it, or whether you consider it not good; or for a man to go to the wars with arms rather than without them.
With them, I think,
he replied:
and yet I believe you are about to utter one of your pleasantries.
You will gather that well enough,
he said:
only answer me. Since you admit that physic is good for a man to drink when necessary, surely one ought to drink this good thing as much as possible; and in such a case it will be well to pound and infuse in it a cart-load of hellebore?
To this Ctesippus replied:
Quite so,
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to be sure, Euthydemus, at any rate if the drinker is as big as the Delphian statue.
Then, further, since in war,
he proceeded,
it is good to have arms, one ought to have as many spears and shields as possible, if we agree that it is a good thing?
Yes, I suppose,
said Ctesippus;
and you, Euthydemus, do you take the other view, that it should be one shield and one spear?
Yes, I do.
What,
he said,
and would you arm Geryon also and Briareus[*] in this way? I thought you more of an expert than that, considering you are a man-at-arms, and your comrade here too!
At this Euthydemus was silent; then Dionysodorus
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asked some questions on Ctesippus’ previous answers, saying:
Well now, gold is in your opinion a good thing to have?
Certainly, and—here I agree—plenty of it too,
said Ctesippus.
Well then, do you not think it right to have good things always and everywhere?
Assuredly,
he said.
Then do you admit that gold is also a good?
Why, I have admitted it,
he replied.
Then we ought always to have it, and everywhere, and above all, in oneself?
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And one will be happiest if one has three talents of gold in one’s belly, a talent in one’s skull, and a stater of gold in each eye?
Well, Euthydemus,
replied Ctesippus,
they say that among the Scythians those are the happiest and best men who have a lot of gold in their own skulls—somewhat as you were saying a moment ago that dog is father; and a still more marvellous thing is told, how they drink out of their skulls when gilded, and gaze inside them, holding their own headpiece in their hands.

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