Lysis
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ἢ ὧδέ πως ἔχει· πᾶσα ἡ τοιαύτη σπουδὴ οὐκ ἐπὶ τούτοις ἐστὶν ἐσπουδασμένη, ἐπὶ τοῖς ἕνεκά του παρασκευαζομένοις, ἀλλʼ ἐπʼ ἐκείνῳ οὗ ἕνεκα πάντα τὰ 220
220a
τοιαῦτα παρασκευάζεται. οὐχ ὅτι πολλάκις λέγομεν ὡς περὶ πολλοῦ ποιούμεθα χρυσίον καὶ ἀργύριον· ἀλλὰ μὴ οὐδέν τι μᾶλλον οὕτω τό γε ἀληθὲς ἔχῃ, ἀλλʼ ἐκεῖνό ἐστιν ὃ περὶ παντὸς ποιούμεθα, ὃ ἂν φανῇ ὄν, ὅτου ἕνεκα καὶ χρυσίον καὶ πάντα τὰ παρασκευαζόμενα παρασκευάζεται. ἆρʼ οὕτως φήσομεν;—
πάνυ γε.
—οὐκοῦν καὶ περὶ τοῦ φίλου ὁ αὐτὸς λόγος; ὅσα γάρ φαμεν φίλα εἶναι ἡμῖν ἕνεκα φίλου 220b
τινὸς ἑτέρου, ῥήματι φαινόμεθα λέγοντες αὐτό· φίλον δὲ τῷ ὄντι κινδυνεύει ἐκεῖνο αὐτὸ εἶναι, εἰς ὃ πᾶσαι αὗται αἱ λεγόμεναι φιλίαι τελευτῶσιν.—
κινδυνεύει οὕτως,
ἔφη,
ἔχειν.
—οὐκοῦν τό γε τῷ ὄντι φίλον οὐ φίλου τινὸς ἕνεκα φίλον ἐστίν;—
ἀληθῆ.
τοῦτο μὲν δὴ ἀπήλλακται, μὴ φίλου τινὸς ἕνεκα τὸ φίλον φίλον εἶναι· ἀλλʼ ἆρα τὸ ἀγαθόν ἐστιν φίλον;—
ἔμοιγε δοκεῖ.
—ἆρʼ οὖν διὰ τὸ κακὸν τὸ ἀγαθὸν φιλεῖται, 220c
καὶ ἔχει ὧδε· εἰ τριῶν ὄντων ὧν νυνδὴ ἐλέγομεν, ἀγαθοῦ καὶ κακοῦ καὶ μήτε ἀγαθοῦ μήτε κακοῦ, τὰ δύο λειφθείη, τὸ δὲ κακὸν ἐκποδὼν ἀπέλθοι καὶ μηδενὸς ἐφάπτοιτο μήτε σώματος μήτε ψυχῆς μήτε τῶν ἄλλων, ἃ δή φαμεν αὐτὰ καθʼ αὑτὰ οὔτε κακὰ εἶναι οὔτε ἀγαθά, ἆρα τότε οὐδὲν ἂν ἡμῖν χρήσιμον εἴη τὸ ἀγαθόν, ἀλλʼ ἄχρηστον ἂν γεγονὸς εἴη; εἰ γὰρ μηδὲν ἡμᾶς ἔτι βλάπτοι, οὐδὲν ἂν οὐδεμιᾶς 220d
ὠφελίας δεοίμεθα, καὶ οὕτω δὴ ἂν τότε γένοιτο κατάδηλον ὅτι διὰ τὸ κακὸν τἀγαθὸν ἠγαπῶμεν καὶ ἐφιλοῦμεν, ὡς φάρμακον ὂν τοῦ κακοῦ τὸ ἀγαθόν, τὸ δὲ κακὸν νόσημα· νοσήματος δὲ μὴ ὄντος οὐδὲν δεῖ φαρμάκου. ἆρʼ οὕτω πέφυκέ τε καὶ φιλεῖται τἀγαθὸν διὰ τὸ κακὸν ὑφʼ ἡμῶν, τῶν μεταξὺ ὄντων τοῦ κακοῦ τε καὶ τἀγαθοῦ, αὐτὸ δʼ ἑαυτοῦ ἕνεκα οὐδεμίαν χρείαν ἔχει;—
ἔοικεν,
ἦ δʼ ὅς,
οὕτως ἔχειν.
—τὸ ἄρα φίλον ἡμῖν ἐκεῖνο, εἰς ὃ ἐτελεύτα πάντα τὰ ἄλλα 220e
—ἕνεκα ἑτέρου φίλου φίλα ἔφαμεν εἶναι ἐκεῖνα—οὐδὲν δὲ τούτοις ἔοικεν. ταῦτα μὲν γὰρ φίλου ἕνεκα φίλα κέκληται, τὸ δὲ τῷ ὄντι φίλον πᾶν τοὐναντίον τούτου φαίνεται πεφυκός· φίλον γὰρ ἡμῖν ἀνεφάνη ὂν ἐχθροῦ ἕνεκα, εἰ δὲ τὸ ἐχθρὸν ἀπέλθοι, οὐκέτι, ὡς ἔοικʼ, ἔσθʼ ἡμῖν φίλον.—
οὔ μοι δοκεῖ,
ἔφη,
ὥς γε νῦν λέγεται.
—
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| ὁ |
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| αὐτὸς |
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| λόγος |
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| γάρ |
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| φαμεν |
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| ἡμῖν |
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| αὐτό |
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| λεγόμεναι |
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| φιλίαι |
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| τελευτῶσιν |
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| κινδυνεύει |
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| ἔχειν |
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| οὐκοῦν |
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| τό |
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| γε |
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| ὄντι |
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| φίλου |
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| δὲ |
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| μήτε |
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| ἂν |
2 |
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| ἡμῖν |
2 |
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| χρήσιμον |
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| εἴη |
1 |
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| τὸ |
9 |
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| ἀγαθόν |
2 |
w |
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| ἀλλʼ |
4 |
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| ἄχρηστον |
1 |
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| ἂν |
3 |
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| γεγονὸς |
1 |
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| εἴη |
2 |
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1042 |
| εἰ |
3 |
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| γὰρ |
1 |
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| μηδὲν |
1 |
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1053 |
| ἡμᾶς |
1 |
w |
1057 |
| ἔτι |
1 |
w |
1060 |
| βλάπτοι |
1 |
w |
1067 |
| οὐδὲν |
2 |
w |
1073 |
| ἂν |
4 |
w |
1075 |
| οὐδεμιᾶς |
1 |
w |
1083 |
| ὠφελίας |
1 |
w |
1090 |
| δεοίμεθα |
1 |
w |
1098 |
| καὶ |
9 |
w |
1102 |
| οὕτω |
4 |
w |
1106 |
| δὴ |
4 |
w |
1108 |
| ἂν |
5 |
w |
1110 |
| τότε |
2 |
w |
1114 |
| γένοιτο |
1 |
w |
1121 |
| κατάδηλον |
1 |
w |
1130 |
| ὅτι |
2 |
w |
1133 |
| διὰ |
2 |
w |
1136 |
| τὸ |
10 |
w |
1138 |
| κακὸν |
3 |
w |
1143 |
| τἀγαθὸν |
1 |
w |
1150 |
| ἠγαπῶμεν |
1 |
w |
1158 |
| καὶ |
10 |
w |
1161 |
| ἐφιλοῦμεν |
1 |
w |
1170 |
| ὡς |
2 |
w |
1173 |
| φάρμακον |
1 |
w |
1181 |
| ὂν |
1 |
w |
1183 |
| τοῦ |
3 |
w |
1186 |
| κακοῦ |
3 |
w |
1191 |
| τὸ |
11 |
w |
1193 |
| ἀγαθόν |
3 |
w |
1199 |
| τὸ |
12 |
w |
1202 |
| δὲ |
6 |
w |
1204 |
| κακὸν |
4 |
w |
1209 |
| νόσημα |
1 |
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1215 |
| νοσήματος |
1 |
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1225 |
| δὲ |
7 |
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1227 |
| μὴ |
3 |
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1229 |
| ὄντος |
1 |
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1234 |
| οὐδὲν |
3 |
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1239 |
| δεῖ |
1 |
w |
1242 |
| φαρμάκου |
1 |
w |
1250 |
| ἆρʼ |
3 |
w |
1254 |
| οὕτω |
5 |
w |
1258 |
| πέφυκέ |
1 |
w |
1264 |
| τε |
12 |
w |
1266 |
| καὶ |
11 |
w |
1269 |
| φιλεῖται |
2 |
w |
1277 |
| τἀγαθὸν |
2 |
w |
1284 |
| διὰ |
3 |
w |
1287 |
| τὸ |
13 |
w |
1289 |
| κακὸν |
5 |
w |
1294 |
| ὑφʼ |
1 |
w |
1297 |
| ἡμῶν |
1 |
w |
1301 |
| τῶν |
2 |
w |
1305 |
| μεταξὺ |
1 |
w |
1311 |
| ὄντων |
2 |
w |
1316 |
| τοῦ |
4 |
w |
1319 |
| κακοῦ |
4 |
w |
1324 |
| τε |
13 |
w |
1326 |
| καὶ |
12 |
w |
1329 |
| τἀγαθοῦ |
1 |
w |
1336 |
| αὐτὸ |
3 |
w |
1341 |
| δʼ |
1 |
w |
1343 |
| ἑαυτοῦ |
1 |
w |
1349 |
| ἕνεκα |
6 |
w |
1354 |
| οὐδεμίαν |
1 |
w |
1362 |
| χρείαν |
1 |
w |
1368 |
| ἔχει |
4 |
w |
1372 |
| ἔοικεν |
1 |
w |
1380 |
| ἦ |
1 |
w |
1382 |
| δʼ |
2 |
w |
1384 |
| ὅς |
1 |
w |
1386 |
| οὕτως |
3 |
w |
1392 |
| ἔχειν |
2 |
w |
1397 |
| τὸ |
15 |
w |
1401 |
| ἄρα |
1 |
w |
1404 |
| φίλον |
7 |
w |
1409 |
| ἡμῖν |
3 |
w |
1413 |
| ἐκεῖνο |
2 |
w |
1419 |
| εἰς |
2 |
w |
1423 |
| ὃ |
4 |
w |
1424 |
| ἐτελεύτα |
1 |
w |
1432 |
| πάντα |
3 |
w |
1437 |
| τὰ |
6 |
w |
1439 |
| ἄλλα |
1 |
w |
1443 |
| ἕνεκα |
7 |
w |
1449 |
| ἑτέρου |
2 |
w |
1455 |
| φίλου |
5 |
w |
1460 |
| φίλα |
2 |
w |
1464 |
| ἔφαμεν |
1 |
w |
1470 |
| εἶναι |
5 |
w |
1475 |
| ἐκεῖνα |
1 |
w |
1481 |
| οὐδὲν |
4 |
w |
1487 |
| δὲ |
10 |
w |
1489 |
| τούτοις |
2 |
w |
1496 |
| ἔοικεν |
2 |
w |
1502 |
| ταῦτα |
1 |
w |
1508 |
| μὲν |
2 |
w |
1511 |
| γὰρ |
2 |
w |
1514 |
| φίλου |
6 |
w |
1519 |
| ἕνεκα |
8 |
w |
1524 |
| φίλα |
3 |
w |
1528 |
| κέκληται |
1 |
w |
1536 |
| τὸ |
16 |
w |
1539 |
| δὲ |
11 |
w |
1541 |
| τῷ |
3 |
w |
1543 |
| ὄντι |
3 |
w |
1547 |
| φίλον |
8 |
w |
1552 |
| πᾶν |
1 |
w |
1555 |
| τοὐναντίον |
1 |
w |
1565 |
| τούτου |
1 |
w |
1571 |
| φαίνεται |
1 |
w |
1579 |
| πεφυκός |
1 |
w |
1586 |
| φίλον |
9 |
w |
1592 |
| γὰρ |
3 |
w |
1595 |
| ἡμῖν |
4 |
w |
1599 |
| ἀνεφάνη |
1 |
w |
1606 |
| ὂν |
2 |
w |
1608 |
| ἐχθροῦ |
1 |
w |
1614 |
| ἕνεκα |
9 |
w |
1619 |
| εἰ |
5 |
w |
1622 |
| δὲ |
12 |
w |
1624 |
| τὸ |
17 |
w |
1626 |
| ἐχθρὸν |
1 |
w |
1632 |
| ἀπέλθοι |
2 |
w |
1639 |
| οὐκέτι |
1 |
w |
1646 |
| ὡς |
3 |
w |
1649 |
| ἔοικʼ |
1 |
w |
1654 |
| ἔσθʼ |
1 |
w |
1659 |
| ἡμῖν |
5 |
w |
1663 |
| φίλον |
10 |
w |
1668 |
| οὔ |
3 |
w |
1672 |
| μοι |
2 |
w |
1675 |
| δοκεῖ |
2 |
w |
1680 |
| ἔφη |
2 |
w |
1684 |
| ὥς |
1 |
w |
1687 |
| γε |
6 |
w |
1689 |
| νῦν |
1 |
w |
1692 |
| λέγεται |
1 |
w |
1699 |