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when defending the charge of murder; but if I consented by my silence to my mothers conduct, what would the murdered man have done to me? Would he not now in hatred be tormenting me with the Furies? Or does my mother have goddesses as allies, but he does not, in his deeper wrong?
You, yes! you, old man, have been my ruin by begetting a wicked daughter; for it was owing to her audacious deed that I lost my father and became my mothers murderer.
You see, Telemachus did not kill the wife of Odysseus, because she did not marry husband upon husband,
but the marriage-bed remained untainted in her home.
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And you see Apollo, who makes the navel of the earth his home, dispensing to mortals unerring prophecies, whom we obey in all he says; I killed my mother in obedience to him.
Find him guilty of the crime, slay him; his was the sin, not mine. What ought I to have done? or is the god not competent to expiate the pollution when I refer it to him? Where then should anyone flee, if he will not rescue me from death after giving his commands?
Do not say that the deed was done badly, but unfortunately for the ones who did it.
A blessed life those mortals lead who make wise marriages; but those for whom it does not fall out well are unfortunate in their public and private concerns.
Chorus Leader
Women by nature always meddle in the doings of men, with unfortunate results.
Tyndareus
Since you are so bold and suppress nothing, but answer me back in such a way as to vex my heart, you will lead me to go to greater lengths in procuring your execution;
and I shall regard this as a fine addition to my labors in coming here to adorn my daughters grave. Yes, I will go to the chosen band of Argives and set the city, willing or not, on you and your sister, to pay the penalty of stoning.
She deserves to die even more than you, for it was she who embittered you against your mother, always carrying tales to your ear to increase your hate the more, announcing dreams from Agamemnon, and Aegisthus bed,
may the gods in Hades loathe it! for even here on earth it was bitter; till she set the house ablaze with fires never kindled by Hephaestus.
Menelaus, I tell you this, and I will do it, too: if you then consider my hatred or our marriage connection of any account, do not ward off this mans doom in defiance of the gods,
but leave him to be stoned to death by the citizens, or do not set foot on Spartan land. Remember you have been told all this, and do not choose the ungodly as friends, pushing aside the more righteous. Servants, lead me from this house. Exit Tyndareus.
Orestes
Go, so that the remainder of my speech may come to this man without interruption, free from your old age.
Menelaus, why are you pacing round and round in thought, going back and forth, in a dilemma?
Menelaus
Let me alone! When I think it over,
I am perplexed to know where to turn in these events.
Orestes
Do not come to a final decision now, but after first hearing what I have to say, then make up your mind.
Menelaus
Good advice! Speak. There are times when silence would be better than speech, and the reverse also.
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Orestes
I will speak now. A long statement has advantages over a short one and is more intelligible to listen to. Give me nothing of your own, Menelaus, but repay what you received from my father. As Menelaus makes a deprecating gesture.I am not speaking of possessions; if you save my life,
you will save my dearest possession.
I have done wrong; I ought to have a little wrong-doing from you to requite that evil, for my father Agamemnon also did wrong in gathering the Hellenes and going to Ilium, not that he had sinned himself,
but he was trying to find a cure for the sin and wrong-doing of your wife. So this is one thing you are bound to pay me back. For he really gave his life, as friends should, toiling hard in battle with you, so that you might have your wife again.
Pay back to me the same thing you got there. For one day exert yourself, on my behalf standing up in my defense, not ten full years.
As for what Aulis took, the sacrifice of my sister, I let you have that; do not kill Hermione.
For in my present plight, you must have an advantage over me and I must pardon it. But give to my miserable father my life and the life of my sister, a maiden so long; for by my death I shall leave my fathers house without an heir.
You will say it is impossible. Thats the point; friends are bound to help friends in trouble. But when fortune gives of its best, what need of friends? For the gods help is enough of itself when he is willing to give it.
All Hellas believes that you love your wife,

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