urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg002.perseus-grc2:19.163 (line)
urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg002.perseus-grc2:19.163
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REF: 19.163
οὐ γὰρ ἀπὸ δρυός ἐσσι παλαιφάτου οὐδʼ ἀπὸ πέτρης.
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| Value | Word Value | Subref Value | Position | Index | VE Ref | Space After | Alignments |
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| οὐ | οὐ | οὐ[1] | 1 | 67914 | 19.163.t1 | True | Odyssey Sentence Alignment (Crane) |
| γὰρ | γὰρ | γὰρ[1] | 2 | 67915 | 19.163.t2 | True | |
| ἀπὸ | ἀπὸ | ἀπὸ[1] | 3 | 67916 | 19.163.t3 | True | |
| δρυός | δρυός | δρυός[1] | 4 | 67917 | 19.163.t4 | True | |
| ἐσσι | ἐσσι | ἐσσι[1] | 5 | 67918 | 19.163.t5 | True | |
| παλαιφάτου | παλαιφάτου | παλαιφάτου[1] | 6 | 67919 | 19.163.t6 | True | |
| οὐδʼ | οὐδʼ | οὐδʼ[1] | 7 | 67920 | 19.163.t7 | True | |
| ἀπὸ | ἀπὸ | ἀπὸ[2] | 8 | 67921 | 19.163.t8 | True | |
| πέτρης. | πέτρης | πέτρης[1] | 9 | 67922 | 19.163.t9 | True |
Dictionary Citations
LSJ
1
from which one is born, οὐ γὰρ ἀ. δρυός ἐσσι οὐδʼ ἀ. πέτρης not sprung from oak or rock, Od. 19.163; γίγνονται δʼ ἄρα ταί γʼ ἔκ τε κρηνέων ἀ. τʼ ἀλσέων 10.350, cf. S. OT 415, OC 571, etc.: sts. ἀπό denotes remote, and ἐκ immediate, descent, τοὺς μὲν ἀ. θεῶν, τοὺς δʼ ἐξ αὐτῶν τῶν θεῶν γεγονότας Isoc. 12.81, cf. Hdt. 7.150; πέμπτη ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ γέννα A. Pr. 853; τρίτος ἀ. Διός third in descent from Zeus, Pl. R. 391c; οἱ ἀ. γένους τινός his descendants, Plu. Them. 32; Περσέως ἀφʼ αἵματος E. Alc. 509: of the place one springs from, ἵπποι . . ποταμοῦ ἄπο Σελλήεντος Il. 2.839. cf. 849; Ἡρακλεῖδαι οἱ ἀ. Σπάρτης Hdt. 8.114, cf. Th. 1.89, etc.; τοὺς ἀ. Φρυγίας X. Cyr. 2.1.5, etc.:hence,
Od. 19.163.
tree ( δρῦν ἐκάλουν οἱ παλαιοὶ . . πᾶν δένδρον Sch. Il. 11.86, cf. Hsch.); including various trees, Thphr. HP 3.8.2; esp. Quercus Aegilops ( φηγός) and Quercus Ilex ( πρῖνος), cf. ἡ φηγὸς καὶ ἡ πρῖνος εἴδη δρυός Dsc. 1.106; opp. πεύκη, Il. 11.494; opp. πίτυς, Od. 9.186, cf. Il. 13.389, 23.328, etc.; στέφανος δρυός crown of oak leaves, SIG 2588.7 ( Delos, ii B. C.); commonly, the oak, δ. ὑψικάρηνοι, ὑψίκομοι, Il. 12.132, 14.398, cf. 13.389, 23.328, etc.; sacred to Zeus, who gave his oracles from the oaks of Dodona, Od. 14.328; αἱ προσήγοροι δρύες A. Pr. 832; πολύγλωσσος δ. S. Tr. 1168, cf. Pl. Phdr. 275b: prov., οὐ γὰρ ἀπὸ δρυός ἐσσι . . οὐδʼ ἀπὸ πέτρης thou art no foundling from the woods or rocks, i. e. thou hast parents and a country, Od. 19.163, cf. Pl. Ap. 34d, R. 544d, AP 10.55 ( Pall.); but οὐ μέν πως νῦν ἔστιν ἀπὸ δρυὸς οὐδʼ ἀπὸ πέτρης . . ὀαρίζειν ʼtis no time now to talk at ease from tree or rock, like lovers, Il. 22.126; ἀλλὰ τί ἦ μοι ταῦτα περὶ δρῦν ἢ περὶ πέτρην; why all this about trees and rocks (i. e. things we have nothing to do with)? Hes. Th. 35; also διὰ πέτρας καὶ διὰ δρυὸς ὁρᾶν ‘to see through a brick wall’, Plu. Comm.not. 2.1083d.
II
spoken of long ago, legendary, δρῦς π. an oak of ancient story, Od. 19.163 (vv. ll. παλαίφαγος, παλαίφυτος, cf. Hsch.).
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ἀπό (Commonly with anastrophe when immediately following the vb. or case-form.) I Adv. 1 From or away from something, away, off: ἀπὸ χλαῖναν βάλεν Il. 2.183, νίζοντες ἄπο βρότον Il. 7.425. Cf. Il. 2.261, Il. 5.308, Il. 12.83, Il. 14.7, Il. 21.51, etc.: Od. 2.133, Od. 3.392, Od. 10.163, Od. 12.199, Od. 19.61, etc. In reference to severing or cutting, away, off, through: ἀπὸ στομάχους τάμεν Il. 3.292. Cf. Il. 5.81, Il. 11.146, Il. 16.587, Il. 23.867, etc.: ἀπὸ πείσματʼ ἔκοψα Od. 10.127. Cf. Od. 4.507, Od. 21.300, Od. 22.475, etc. 2 Away, at a distance: ἀπὸ λοιγὸν ἀμῦναι Il. 1.67. Cf. Il. 16.75, Il. 24.156, etc.: ἀπὸ κεῖνος ἔρυκεν Od. 14.283. 3 Restoration, back: ἀπὸ πατρὶ δόμεναι κούρην Il. 1.98. Cf. Il. 24.76, etc. 4 Requital, making up or giving compensation for something: πρίν γʼ ἀπὸ πᾶσαν ἐμοὶ δόμεναι λώβην Il. 9.387. Cf. Od. 2.78. 5 Intensive, in some cases not appreciably affecting the sense: ἀπό κε θυμὸν ὄλεσσεν Il. 8.90. Cf. Il. 10.186, Il. 12.52, 459, Il. 17.609, Il. 22.505, etc.: ἀπό κε ῥινοὺς δρύφθη Od. 5.426. Cf. Od. 2.49, Od. 12.2, Od. 13.340, Od. 19.81, Od. 23.331, etc. II Prep. with genit. 1 From. a Indicating motion or transference: ἆλτʼ ἀπʼ Ὀλύμπου Il. 1.532, ἀχλὺν ἀπʼ ὀφθαλμῶν ἕλον Il. 5.127. Cf. Il. 1.591, Il. 2.91, Il. 7.25, Il. 13.640, Il. 17.383, etc.: Od. 1.75, Od. 3.307, Od. 5.323, Od. 8.88, Od. 14.129, etc. So with ablative: στήθεσφιν Il. 11.374. Cf. Il. 8.300, Il. 10.347, Il. 13.585, Il. 16.246. etc.: ἰκριόφιν Od. 12.414. Cf. Od. 7.169, Od. 14.134, etc. So also with forms in -θεν 1: Τροίηθεν Il. 24.492: Od. 9.38. οὐρανόθεν Il. 8.365: Od. 11.18, Od. 12.381. ὅθεν Od. 4.358. In reference to severing or cutting: ἀπʼ αὐχένος ὦμον ἐέργαθεν Il. 5.147. Cf. Il. 13.202, etc. b Indicating a point from which action takes place: ὣς φάτʼ ἀπὸ πτόλιος Il. 4.514, εἰσεῖδεν ἀπὸ ῥίου Il. 14.154 (cf. under ἐκ II.8). Cf. Il. 4.275, 306, Il. 16.386, Il. 20.5, Il. 24.605, etc.: ἀφʼ ἵππων μάρνασθαι Od. 9.49. Cf. Od. 4.524, Od. 10.121, Od. 20.103, etc. So with a form in -θεν 1: οὐρανόθεν Il. 21.199. In reference to a starting-point: ἀπὸ νύσσης Il. 23.758: Od. 8.121. c In reference to a vessel, source or stock from which something is taken or drawn: νέκταρ ἀπὸ κρητῆρος ἀφύσσων Il. 1.598. Cf. Il. 10.578, Il. 16.160, 226: λαχὼν ἀπὸ ληΐδος αἶσαν Od. 5.40 = Od. 13.138. Sim.: ἓξ ἀφʼ ἑκάστης νηός (out of . . .) Od. 9.60. In reference to birth: ἀπʼ ἀλσέων Od. 10.350. Cf. Od. 19.163. To that from which something proceeds or is derived: τοῖον πῦρ δαῖεν ἀπὸ κρατός Il. 5.7. Cf. Il. 12.431, Il. 16.635, Il. 18.420, etc.: χαρίτων ἄπο κάλλος ἔχουσαι Od. 6.18. Cf. Od. 6.12, Od. 12.187, etc. With abl. Il. 11.44. To a motive or condition of action: ἀπὸ σπουδῆς Il. 7.359 = Il. 12.233 (see σπουδή 1). d In reference to that to which something is fastened: ἁψαμένη βρόχον ἀπὸ μελάθρου Od. 11.278. 2 a In reference to position, away from, far from, at a distance from, apart from: ἀπὸ πατρίδος αἴης Il. 2.162. Cf. Il. 5.322, Il. 9.437, Il. 13.696, Il. 15.33 (apart from . . .), Il. 17.301, Il. 18.272, Il. 20.261, etc.: φίλων ἄπο Od. 1.49. Cf. Od. 1.203, Od. 3.313, Od. 6.40, Od. 9.192 (apart from . . .), Od. 11.503, Od. 15.10, etc. b In reference to warding or keeping off from: ἀπὸ χροὸς ὄλεθρον Il. 13.440. Cf. Il. 4.130, Il. 15.534: Od. 2.59 = Od. 17.538. c In reference to lack or want: δηρὸν ἀπὸ χροός ἐστιν ἀλοιφή Od. 6.220. d To concealment or secrecy: κεκρυμμένʼ ἀπʼ ἄλλων Od. 23.110. e Fig.: ἀπὸ θυμοῦ (out of favour) Il. 1.562 (cf. ἀποθύμιος), ἀπὸ δόξης (see δόξα) Il. 10.324: Od. 11.344, ἀπὸ σκοποῦ (see σκοπός (4)) Od. 11.344. 3 In temporal sense, immediately after: ἀπὸ δείπνου θωρήσσοντο Il. 8.54.
δρῦς δρυός, ἡ [cognate with Eng. tree, doubtless the orig. sense. Cf. δρίος, δρύϊνος, δρυμά, δρύοχοι, δρυτόμος.] Pl. δρύες Il. 12.132. Acc. δρῦς Il. 11.494, Il. 23.118. 1 An oak Il. 11.494, Il. 12.132, Il. 13.389 = Il. 16.482, Il. 14.398, 414, Il. 18.558, Il. 23.118: Od. 12.357, Od. 14.328 = Od. 19.297. 2 A felled oak or a piece thereof: ξύλον δρυός Il. 23.328. Cf. Od. 9.186, Od. 14.12, 425. 3 In phrase οὐκ ἀπὸ δρυὸς οὐδʼ ἀπὸ πέτρης Il. 22.126: Od. 19.163, an obscure proverbial expression. In Il. 22. the sense seems to be giving utterance to thoughts from any source as they arise, with unconsidered or idle words. In Od. 19. the sense seems to be for you are sprung (from men) not from . . .
παλαίφατος -ον [πάλαι + φα-, φαν-, φαίνω.] Put forth long ago, old : θέσφατα Od. 9.507=Od. 13.172. Of old renown, old-world : δρυός Od. 19.163.