urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg002.perseus-grc2:17.368 (line)

ἔρομαι

3 question, Il. 1.332, etc., Hdt. 1.32, Lys. 12.24 ; εἴρετο δʼ ἡμέας, ὦ ξεῖνοι, τίνες ἐστέ; Od. 9.251 ; ἀλλήλους εἴροντο τίς εἴη καὶ πόθεν ἔλθοι 17.368, cf. E. Or. 763 (troch.), etc.; in later Prose, Jul. Or. 7.229b.

τίς

II τίς is sts. used for ὅστις in indirect questions, εἰρώτα δὴ ἔπειτα τίς εἴη καὶ πόθεν ἔλθοι Od. 15.423, cf. 17.368; δεῖξον τίς ἔσται τῇ ταλαιπώρῳ χρόνος A. Pr. 623; οὐδʼ ἔχω τίς ἂν γενοίμαν ib. 905 (lyr.); οὐκ ἔχω τί φῶ Id. Ch. 91, cf. S. OC 48, etc.; ἐπισκεψώμεθα τίνες πέπανται σφενδόνας X. An. 3.3.18; εἰπὲ τίνα γνώμην ἔχεις ib. 2.2.10; freq. in later Gr., where ὅστις is very rare, εἰς τὸ λογιστήριον γράφων . . τί ὀφείλεται PHib. 1.29.42 (iii B.C.), cf. PCair.Zen. 21.40, al. (iii B.C.); οὐθεὶς ἐσήμηνεν παρὰ τί ἂν τοῖς προστεταγμένοις . . οὐ κατηκολούθησαν nobody indicated why they should not have obeyed orders, PTeb. 72.160, cf. 61 ( b). 227 (ii B.C.); ὅστις and τίς are sts. combined, ὡς πύθοιθʼ ὅ τι δρῶν ἢ τί φωνῶν ῥυσαίμην S. OT 71, cf. A. Pr. 489 sq., 617, 623:—later with inf., τί πράττειν οὐκ ἔχω I do not know what to do, Aesop. 67, cf. Ps.-Luc. Philopatr. 29.

εἴρομαι

εἴρομαι Fut. εἰρήσομαι Od. 7.237, Od. 19.104, 509. 3 sing. -εται Od. 19.46. 1 pl. -όμεθα Od. 4.61. From aor. ἠρόμην 1 pl. subj. ἐρώμεθα Od. 8.133. 3 sing. opt. ἔροιτο Od. 1.135, Od. 3.77. Infin. ἐρέσθαι Od. 1.405, Od. 3.69, 243, Od. 14.378, Od. 15.362, Od. 16.465. From ἐρέω pres. opt. ἐρέοιμι Od. 11.229. 1 pl. -οιμεν Od. 4.192. Pple. ἐρέων Il. 7.128: Od. 21.31. In mid. form. Subj. ἐρέωμαι Od. 17.509. 3 pl. impf. ἐρέοντο Il. 1.332, Il. 8.445, Il. 9.671: Od. 10.63, 109. Imp. ἔρειο (app. for ἐρέεο) Il. 11.611. Infin. ἐρέεσθαι Od. 6.298, Od. 23.106. From ἔρημι 1 pl. subj. ἐρείομεν Il. 1.62. (ἀν-, δι-, διεξερέομαι, ἐξ-.) 1 To ask, inquire, make inquiry, ask questions: εἴρετο δεύτερον αὖτις Il. 1.513. Cf. Il. 9.671: Od. 10.63, Od. 14.378, Od. 15.263, 362, Od. 23.106, Od. 24.114, 474. With indirect question: ὁππόθεν εἰμέν Od. 3.80. Cf. Od. 4.423, Od. 9.402, Od. 10.109, Od. 17.120. 2 To ask or inquire about: εἰρόμεναι παῖδας Il. 6.239. Cf. Il. 7.128, Il. 10.416, Il. 24.390: δώματα πατρὸς ἐμοῦ Od. 6.298. Cf. Od. 9.13, 503, Od. 11.542, Od. 16.402, 465. With indirect question: νόστον, ὡς . . . Od. 4.423. 3 To question (a person): μάντιν τινά Il. 1.62. Cf. Il. 1.332, 553, Il. 7.127, Il. 8.445, Il. 15.247: Od. 1.135, 188, 284, Od. 3.77, Od. 4.192, Od. 9.251, Od. 11.229, Od. 19.46, 95, Od. 20.137. With indirect question: Νέστορʼ ἔρειο ὅν τινα . . . Il. 11.611. Cf. Od. 3.69, Od. 4.61, Od. 8.133, Od. 17.368, 509. So ἐθέλω σε περὶ ξείνοιο ἐρέσθαι, ὁππόθεν . . . Od. 1.405. With cognate acc.: ἔπος ἄλλο ἐρέσθαι Νέστορα Od. 3.243. 4 With double acc. of person questioned and of what is inquired about: τό σε πρῶτον εἰρήσομαι Od. 7.237 = Od. 19.104. Cf. Od. 8.549, Od. 11.570 (see under δίκη 4), Od. 17.571, Od. 19.509. 5 To ask about, look for, seek: ἵππους Od. 21.31.

πόθεν

πόθεν [-θεν 1.] Whence ? 1 In local sense : τίς π. εἰς ἀνδρῶν; Il. 21.150 : Od. 1.170= Od. 10.325= Od. 14.187= Od. 15.264= Od. 19.105= Od. 24.298, Od. 7.238 (or poss. these passages may be referred to (2)). Cf. Od. 3.71= Od. 9.252, Od. 16.57. In indirect construction : εἰρώτα (εἴροντο) τίς εἴη καὶ π. ἔλθοι Od. 15.423, Od. 17.368. 2 In reference to race or origin. In indirect construction : οὐκ οἶδα π. γένος εὔχεται εἶναι (whence in the matter of race, i.e. of what stock he claims to be) Od. 17.373.

τίς

τίς τί. Genit. τίνος. Genit. τέο Il. 2.225, Il. 24.128 : Od. 4.463. τεῦ Il. 18.192 : Od. 15.509, Od. 24.257. Genit. pl. τέων Il. 24.387 : Od. 6.119, Od. 13.200, Od. 20.192. 1 Who ? which ? in neut., what ? : τίς θεῶν ξυνέηκε μάχεσθαι; Il. 1.8 : τέο ἐπιμέμφεαι; Il. 2.225, τί μοι ἔριδος; (what part have I in ...? what have I to do with ...?) Il. 21.360. Cf. Il. 3.226, Il. 5.465, 703, Il. 11.313, Il. 18.192 (see εἴδω III.8), etc. : τίνες ἔμμεναι εὐχετόωντο; Od. 1.172, τί κεν ῥέξειε καὶ ἄλλος; Od. 4.649. Cf. Od. 2.28, 332, Od. 4.443, Od. 5.299, Od. 6.276, Od. 10.573, etc. Joined with another interrogative : τίς πόθεν. See πόθεν 1. In indirect construction : τίς τῶν ἄριστος ἔην, σύ μοι ἔννεπε Il. 2.761 : εἰρώτα (εἴροντο) τίς εἴη Od. 15.423, Od. 17.368. 2 With sb., etc., what ? : τίς τοι ἀνάγκη πτώσσειν ; Il. 5.633 : τίς τοι ἄλλος ὁμοῖος; Il. 17.475. Cf. Il. 17.586, Il. 24.367, 387 : τίνα δʼ αὐτῷ μήσατʼ ὄλεθρον; Od. 3.249, τί κακὸν τόδε πάσχετε; (what ... is this that you ...?) Od. 20.351. Cf. Od. 1.225, Od. 4.642, Od. 10.64, Od. 11.171, Od. 13.233, etc. 3 Adverbially in neut. τί. a In respect of what ? in what ? how ? why ? : τί δέ σε φρένας ἵκετο πένθος; Il. 1.362. Cf. Il. 4.31, Il. 11.606, Il. 13.275, Il. 16.31, Il. 18.80, etc. : τί δε χρὴ ψεύδεσθαι; Od. 14.364. Cf. Od. 21.110, Od. 24.95, etc. b For what reason ? why ? : τί κλαίεις; Il. 1.362. Cf. Il. 1.414, Il. 3.399, Il. 4.371, Il. 8.293, Il. 9.337, etc. : τί νύ οἱ τόσον ὠδύσαο; Od. 1.62. Cf. Od. 4.465, Od. 8.153, Od. 9.447, Od. 10.431, Od. 12.450, etc.