LYCINUS Well then, which path should we travel first? Or will this make no difference? Let us begin anywhere—with Pythagoras, for instance. If we do this, how long do we suppose we shall spend in learning all the doctrines of Pythagoras? Please do not leave out those five years of silence. Including the five years I suppose thirty years will be enough, or certainly a minimum of twenty. HERMOTIMUS Let us assume so. LYCINUS Following that, we must obviously give the same number to Plato, and not less to Aristotle. HERMOTIMUS No, not less. LYCINUS For Chrysippus, I shall not ask you how many. I know from what I have heard you say that forty will hardly suffice. HERMOTIMUS Just so. LYCINUS Then Epicurus in his turn, and the rest. You can realise that I do not put these figures too high, when you consider the number of Stoics, Epicureans, and Platonists, who are octogenarians but who admit, each and every one, that they do not know all the teachings of their own sect, so as to have a thorough knowledge of its doctrines. If they did not admit it, then Chrysippus and Aristotle and Plato would, and even more would Socrates, a man not one whit their inferior: he used to shout out to the whole world not only that he did not know everything, but that he knew absolutely nothing, or only this one thing—that he did not know. Let us count them up from the beginning: we gave twenty to Pythagoras, the same to Plato, and to all the others the same. What would the total be if we assume only ten philosophical sects? HERMOTIMUS More than two hundred years, Lycinus. LYCINUS Shall we take off a quarter, and make a hundred and fifty years enough, or a whole half?