<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4:" n="31"><p><label>Tychiades</label> Yes, I think you have dealt with that point sufficiently; apart from that, how do you show the inferiority of Philosophy to your art?</p><p><label>Simon</label> I must first mention that no sponger was ever in love with Philosophy; but many philosophers are recorded to have set their hearts on Sponging, to which they still remain constant.</p><p><label>Tychiades</label> Philosophers caring to sponge? Names, please.</p><p><label>Simon</label> Names? You know them well enough; you only play at not knowing because you regard it as a slur on their characters, instead of as the credit it is.

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</p><p><label>Tychiades</label> Simon, I solemnly assure you Te cannot think where you will find your instances.</p><p><label>Simon</label> Honour bright? Then I conclude you never patronize their biographers, or you could not hesitate about my reference.</p><p><label>Tychiades</label> Seriously, I long to hear their names.</p><p><label>Simon</label> Oh, I will give you a list; not bad names either; the dite, if 1 am correctly informed; they will rather surprise you.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4:" n="32"><p>Aeschines the Socratic, now, author of dialogues as witty as they are long, brought them with him to Sicily in the hope that they would gain him the royal notice of Dionysius; having given a reading of the Miltiades, and found himself famous, he settled down in Sicily to sponge on Dionysius and forget Socratic composition.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4:" n="33"><p>Again, I suppose you will pass Aristippus of Cyrene as a distinguished philosopher?</p><p><label>Tychiades</label> Assuredly.</p><p><label>Simon</label> Well, he was living there too at the same time and on the same terms, Dionysius reckoned him the best of all spongers; he had indeed a special gift that way; the prince used to send his cooks to him daily for instruction. He, I think, was really an ornament to the profession.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4:" n="34"><p>Well then, Plato, the noblest of you all, came to Sicily with the same view; he did a few days’ sponging, but found himself incompetent and had to leave. He went back to Athens, took considerable pains with himself, and then had another try, with exactly the same result, however. Plato’s Sicilian disaster seems to me to bear comparison with that of Nicias.</p><p><label>Tychiades</label> Your authority for all this, pray?

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg030.perseus-eng4:" n="35"><p><label>Simon</label> Oh, there are plenty of authorities; but I will specify Aristoxenus the musician, a weighty one enough, and himself attached as a sponger to Neleus. Then you of course know that Euripides held this relation to Archelaus till the day of his death, and Anaxarchus to Alexander.

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