Pythagoras In addition to these, counting. Buyer I can count now. Pythagoras How do you do it? Buyer One, two, three, four. Pythagoras Look, now; what you deem four is really ten, and a perfect triangle, and what we swear by. Buyer Hear me swear a mighty oath: by Four, I never heard diviner or more holy words. Pythagoras And after that, stranger, you will have knowledge concerning earth and air and water and fire-the mass of each, and what form it has, and what motion by consequence. Buyer Then has fire form, or air, or water? Pythagoras Very clear forms, for the formless and shapeless is immovable; and besides these things you will know that God is number and mind and harmony. Buyer This is startling! Pythagoras Beyond what I have already said, you will know that you yourself, who seem to be a unit, are one person in appearance and another in reality. Buyer What do you say? Am I somebody else and not this person now talking to you? Pythagoras Now you are he, but formerly you appeared in another body and with another name; and in time you will change again into another. Buyer You mean this: that I shall be immortal, changing into one form after another? But that is enough on this subject.