<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg017.perseus-eng4" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg017.perseus-eng4:" n="10"><sp rend="merge"><speaker>Cyniscus</speaker><p>Not one word can I say, but you must think I picked it up from them. Oblige me by answering another question; I could desire no better authority than yours. What is this Providence? Is she a Fate too? or some greater, a mistress of the Fates?</p></sp><sp><speaker>Zeus</speaker><p>I have already told you that there are things which it is not proper for you to know. You said you were only going to ask me one question, instead of which you go on quibbling without end. I see what it is you are at: you want to make out that we Gods take no thought for human affairs.</p></sp><sp><speaker>Cyniscus</speaker><p>It is nothing to do with me: it was you who said just now that the Fates ordained everything. Have you thought better of it? Are you going to retract what you said? Are

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the Gods going to push Destiny aside and make a bid for government?

</p></sp></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg017.perseus-eng4:" n="11"><sp><speaker>Zeus</speaker><p>Not at all; but the Fates work through us.</p></sp><sp><speaker>Cyniscus</speaker><p>I see: you are their servants, their underlings. But that comes to the same thing: it is still they who design; you are only their tools, their instruments.</p></sp><sp><speaker>Zeus</speaker><p>How do you make that out?</p></sp><sp><speaker>Cyniscus</speaker><p>I suppose it is pretty much the same as with a carpenter’s adze and drill: they do assist him in his» work, but no one would describe them as the workmen; we do not say that a ship has been turned out by such and such an adze, or by such and such a drill; we name the shipwright. In the same way, Destiny and the Fates are the universal shipwrights, and you are their drills and adzes; and it seems to me that instead of paying their respects and their sacrifices to you, men ought to sacrifice to Destiny, and implore ber favours; though even that would not meet the case, because I take it that things are settled once and for all, and that the Fates themselves are not at liberty to chop and change. If some one gave the spindle a turn in the wrong direction, and undid all Clotho’s work, Atropus would have something to say on the subject.

</p></sp></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg017.perseus-eng4:" n="12"><sp><speaker>Zeus</speaker><p>So! You would deprive even the Fates of honour? You seem determined to reduce all to one level. Well, we Gods have at least one claim on you: we do prophesy and foretell what the Fates have disposed.</p></sp><sp><speaker>Cyniscus</speaker><p>Now even granting that you do, what is the use of knowing what one has to expect, when one can by no possibility take any precautions? Are you going to tell me that a man who finds out that he is to die by a steel point can escape the doom by shutting himself up? Not he. Fate will take him out hunting, and there will be his steel: Adrastus will hurl his spear at the boar, miss the brute, and get Croesus’s <pb n="v.3.p.77"/> son; Fate’s inflexible law directs his aim.</p></sp></div></div></body></text></TEI>