<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg031.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="57"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="57"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="57a"/><said who="#Timaeus" rend="merge"><label>Tim.</label><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Once again let us reason out their character in this way. Whenever any of the other Kinds is caught within fire it is cut up thereby, owing to the acuteness of its angles and of the line of its sides, but when it has been re-composed into the substance of fire it ceases to be cut; for the Kind that is similar and uniform is in no case able either to cause any change in, or to suffer any affection from, a Kind which is in a uniform and similar state<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">The affinity of <q type="emph">like to like</q> was an axiom in early Greek thought; Cf. <title>Lysis</title>215 C ff.,<title>Sympos</title>. 186 A ff.</note>; but so long as, in the course of its passage into another form, it is a weaker body fighting against a stronger, it is continually being dissolved. And again,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="57b"/> whenever a few of the smaller corpuscles, being caught within a great number of larger corpuscles, are broken up and quenched, then, if they consent to be re-compounded into the shape of the victorious Kind, they cease to be quenched, and air is produced out of fire, and out of air water; but if they fight against combining with these or with any of the other Kinds, they do not cease from dissolution until either they are driven out to their own kindred, by means of this impact and dissolution, or else they are defeated and, instead of many forms, assume one form similar to the victorious Kind, and continue dwelling therewith as a united family. Moreover, it is owing to these affections  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="57c"/> that they all interchange their places; for while the bulk of each Kind keeps apart in a region of its own<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">The elements are conceived as having their proper abodes in concentric strata of space, one above another—earth in the center, water next, then air, and fire at the circumference of the World-Sphere.</note> because of the motion of the Recipient, yet those corpuscles which from time to time become dissimilar to themselves and similar to others are carried, because of the shaking, towards the region which belongs to those corpuscles whereto they have been assimilated.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Such are the causes which account for the generation of all the unmixed and primary bodies. But within these four Kinds other classes exist, whereof the cause must be sought in the construction of each of the two elemental triangles, each such construction having originally produced  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="57d"/> not merely a triangle of one definite size, but larger and smaller triangles of sizes as numerous as are the classes within the Kinds. Consequently, when these are combined amongst themselves and with one another they are infinite in their variety; and this variety must be kept in view by those who purpose to employ probable reasoning concerning Nature.

                  <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Now, unless we can arrive at some agreed conclusion concerning Motion and Rest, as to how and under what conditions they come about,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="57e"/> our subsequent argument will be greatly hampered. The facts about them have already been stated in part; but in addition thereto we must state further that motion never consents to exist within uniformity. For it is difficult, or rather impossible, for that which is to be moved to exist without that which is to move, or that which is to move without that which is to be moved; but in the absence of these there is no motion, and that these should ever be uniform is a thing impossible.</p></said></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="58"><said who="#Timaeus" rend="merge"><label>Tim.</label><p> Accordingly, we must always place rest in uniformity, <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="58"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="58a"/> and motion in non-uniformity; and the cause of the non-uniform nature lies in inequality. Now we have explained the origin of inequality<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Cf. 53 C ff.: the varying shapes and sizes of the primary triangles account for the <q type="emph">inequality.</q></note>; but we have not declared how it is that these bodies are not separated according to their several Kinds, and cease not from their motion and passage one through another. Wherefore, we shall once more expound the matter as follows. The revolution of the All, since it comprehends the Kinds, compresses them all, seeing that it is circular and tends naturally to come together to itself<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">i.e., exerts a centripetal force. For this <q type="emph">compression</q> cf. Emped. <title>Frag</title>. 185 <foreign xml:lang="greek">Τιτὰν ἠδʼ αἰθὴρ σφίγγων περὶ κύκλον ἅπαντα</foreign>.</note>; and thus it suffers no void place to be left.  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="58b"/> Wherefore, fire most of all has permeated all things, and in a second degree air, as it is by nature second in fineness; and so with the rest; for those that have the largest constituent parts have the largest void left in their construction, and those that have the smallest the least. Thus the tightening of the compression forces together the small bodies into the void intervals of the large. Therefore, when small bodies are placed beside large, and the smaller disintegrate the larger while the larger unite the smaller, they all shift up and down  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="58c"/> towards their own proper regions; for the change in their several sizes causes their position in space also to change. And since in this way and for these reasons the production of non-uniformity is perpetually maintained, it brings about unceasingly, both now and for the future, the perpetual motion of these bodies.

                  <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>In the next place, we must observe that there are many kinds of fire: for example, there is flame; and the kind issuing from flame, which does not burn but supplies light to the eyes; and the kind which, when the flame is quenched, is left behind among the embers.  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="58d"/> So likewise of air, there is the most translucent kind which is called by the name of aether, and the most opaque which is mist and darkness, and other species without a name, which are produced by reason of the inequality of the triangles. The kinds of water are, primarily, two, the one being the liquid, the other the fusible<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">i.e., metals are classes as <q type="emph">water,</q> cf. 59 B ff.</note> kind. Now the liquid kind, inasmuch as it partakes of those small particles of water which are unequal, is mobile both in itself and by external force owing to its non-uniformity and the shape of its figure. But the other kind, which is composed of large  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="58e"/> and uniform particles, is more stable than the first and is heavy, being solidified by its uniformity; but when fire enters and dissolves it, this causes it to abandon its uniformity, and this being lost it partakes more largely in motion; and when it has become mobile it is pushed by the adjacent air and extended upon the earth; and for each of these modifications it has received a descriptive name—<q type="emph">melting</q> for the disintegration of its masses, and for its extension over the earth <q type="emph">fluidity.</q></p></said></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="59"><said who="#Timaeus" rend="merge"><label>Tim.</label><p> Again, since the fire on issuing from the water <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="59"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="59a"/> does not pass into a void but presses on the adjacent air, this in turn compresses the liquid mass which is still mobile into the abodes of the fire and combines it with itself; and the mass, being this, is compressed and recovering again its uniformity, because of the departure of the fire, the author of its non-uniformity, returns to its state of self-identity. And this cessation of the fire is termed <q type="emph">cooling,</q> and the combination which follows on its departure <q type="emph">solidification.</q>  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="59b"/>  

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Of all the kinds of water which we have termed <q type="emph">fusible,</q> the densest is produced from the finest and most uniform particles: this is a kind of unique form, tinged with a glittering and yellow hue, even that most precious of possessions, <q type="emph">gold,</q> which has been strained through stones and solidified. And the off-shoot of gold, which is very hard because of its density and black in color, is called <q type="emph">adamant.</q><note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Perhaps haematite or platinum.</note> And the kind which closely resembles gold in its particles but has more forms than one, and in density is more dense than gold, and partakes of small and fine portions of earth so that it is harder, while it is also lighter  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="59c"/> owing to its having large interstices within it,—this particular kind of the bright and solid waters, being compounded thus, is termed <q type="emph">bronze.</q> And the portion of earth that is mixed therewith becomes distinct by itself, when both grow old and separate again-each from the other; and then it is named <q type="emph">rust.</q>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And the rest of such phenomena it is no longer difficult to explain in full, if one aims at framing a description that is probable.<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Cf. 29 B, D, 48 C, etc.</note> For as regards this, whenever for the sake of recreation a man lays aside arguments concerning eternal Realities and considers probable accounts of Becoming,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="59d"/> gaining thereby a pleasure not to be repented of, he provides for his life a pastime that is both moderate and sensible. To this pastime let us now give free play, and proceed to expound in order the subsequent probabilities concerning these same phenomena in the following way.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>The water that is mixed with fire, which is fine and fluid, is termed <q type="emph">fluid,</q> owing to its motion and the way it rolls over the earth.<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Alluding to a fanciful derivation of <foreign xml:lang="greek">ὑγρόν</foreign>from <foreign xml:lang="greek">ὑπὲρ γῆν ῥέον</foreign>.</note> Also it is soft owing to the fact that its bases, being less stable than those of earth, give way. When this kind is separated off from fire and air and isolated it becomes more uniform,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="59e"/> but because of their outflow it is compressed upon itself; and when it is thus solidified, the part of it above the earth which is most affected by this process is termed <q type="emph">hail,</q> and the part upon the earth <q type="emph">ice</q> and the part which is less affected and is still only half-solid is called snow when it is above the earth, but when it is upon the earth and solidified out of dew it is called <q type="emph">hoar-frost.</q></p></said></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="60"><said who="#Timaeus" rend="merge"><label>Tim.</label><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Now as regards most forms of water that are intermingled one with another, the kind as a whole, consisting of water that has been strained through earth-grown plants, <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="60"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="60a"/> is called <q type="emph">sap</q>; but inasmuch as the several sorts have become dissimilar owing to intermixture, most of the kinds thus produced are unnamed. Four of these kinds, however, being fiery and specially conspicuous, have received names. Of these, that which is heating to the soul as well as the body is called <q type="emph">wine</q>; that which is smooth and divisive of the vision, and therefore bright to look upon and gleaming and glistening in appearance, is the species <q type="emph">oil,</q> including pitch and castor oil and olive oil itself and all the others that are of the same character;  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="60b"/> and all that kind which tends to expand the contracted parts of the mouth, so far as their nature allows, and by this property produces sweetness, has received as a general designation the name of <q type="emph">honey</q>; and the foamy kind, which tends to dissolve the flesh by burning, and is secreted from all the saps, is named <q type="emph">verjuice.</q><note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Perhaps a kind of fig-juice.</note> 

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Of the species of earth, that which is strained through water becomes a stony substance in the following way. When the water commingled therewith is divided in the process of mingling, it changes into the form of air; and when it has become air it rushes up to its own region;  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="60c"/> but because there was no void space above them, therefore it pressed against the adjacent air; and it, being heavy, when pressed and poured round the mass of earth, crushed it forcibly and compressed it into the spaces from which the new air was ascending. But when earth is thus compressed by the air so as to be indissoluble by water it forms <q type="emph">stone</q>; of which the fairer sort is that composed of equal and uniform parts and transparent, and the coarser sort the opposite. That kind from which all the moisture has been carried off by the rapidity of fire, and which is more brittle  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="60d"/> in its composition than the first kind, is the kind to which we have given the name of <q type="emph">earthenware.</q> But sometimes, when moisture is still left in the earth and it has been fused by fire and has cooled again, it forms the species which is black in hue. On the other hand there are two kinds, which, in exactly the same manner, are isolated after the mixture from much of their water, but are composed of finer parts of earth, and are saline: when these have become semi-solid and soluble again by water, one of them is purgative of oil and earth and forms the species called <q type="emph">lye</q><note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">i.e., potash or saltpeter.</note>; and the other, which blends well with the combinations which affect the sensation of the mouth,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="60e"/> is that substance which is customarily termed <q type="emph">beloved of the gods,</q><note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Cf. Hom.<title>Il</title>. ix. 214 <foreign xml:lang="greek">πάσσε δʼ ἁλὸς θείοιο</foreign>.</note> namely <q type="emph">salt.</q>

   <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>As regards the kinds which are a blend of these two, and are dissoluble by fire and not by water, their composition is due to the following cause. Fire and air do not melt masses of earth; for, inasmuch as their particles are smaller then the interstices of its structure, they have room to pass through without forcible effort and leave the earth undissolved, with the result that it remains unmelted; whereas the particles of water, being larger, must use force to make their way out, and consequently dissolve and melt the earth.</p></said></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="61"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="61"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="61a"/><said who="#Timaeus" rend="merge"><label>Tim.</label><p>Thus earth when it is not forcibly condensed is dissolved only by water; and when it is condensed it is dissolved by fire only, since no entrance is left for anything save fire. Water, again, when most forcibly massed together is dissolved by fire only, but when massed less forcibly both by fire and air, the latter acting by way of the interstices, and the former by way of the triangles; but air when forcibly condensed is dissolved by nothing save by way of its elemental triangles, and when unforced it is melted down by fire only.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>As regards the classes of bodies which are compounds of earth and water,  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="61b"/> so long as the water occupies the interspaces of earth which are forcibly contracted, the portions of water which approach from without find no entrance, but flow round the whole mass and leave it undissolved. But when portions of fire enter into the interspaces of the water they produce the same effects on water as water does on earth; consequently, they are the sole causes why the compound substance is dissolved and flows. And of these substances those which contain less water than earth form the whole kind known as <q type="emph">glass,</q>  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="61c"/> and all the species of stone called <q type="emph">fusible</q>; while those which contain more water include all the solidified substances of the type of wax and frankincense.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And now we have explained with some fullness the Four Kinds, which are thus variegated in their shapes and combinations and permutations; but we have still to try to elucidate the Causes which account for their affective qualities. Now, first of all, the quality of sense-perceptibility must always belong to the objects under discussion; but we have not as yet described the generation of flesh and the appurtenances of flesh, nor of that portion of Soul which is mortal. But, in truth, these last cannot be adequately explained  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="61d"/> apart from the subject of the sensible affections, nor the latter without the former; while to explain both simultaneously is hardly possible. Therefore, we must assume one of the two, to begin with, and return later to discuss our assumptions. In order, then, that the affective properties may be treated next after the kinds, let us presuppose the facts about body and soul.

 <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Firstly, then, let us consider how it is that we call fire <q type="emph">hot</q> by noticing the way it acts  <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="61e"/> upon our bodies by dividing and cutting. That its property is one of sharpness we all, I suppose, perceive;</p></said></div></div></body></text></TEI>