<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg028.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="235"><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>In truth, Menexenus, to fall in battle seems to be a splendid thing in many ways. For a man obtains a splendid and magnificent funeral even though at his death he be but a poor man; and though he be but a worthless fellow, he wins praise, and that by the mouth of accomplished men who do not praise at random, but in speeches prepared long beforehand. And they praise in such splendid fashion, that, what with their ascribing to each one both what he has and what he has not, <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="235"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="235a"/> and the variety and splendor of their diction, they bewitch our souls; and they eulogize the State in every possible fashion, and they praise those who died in the war and all our ancestors of former times and ourselves who are living still; so that I myself, Menexenus, when thus praised by them feel mightily ennobled, and every time I listen fascinated I am exalted and imagine myself to have become all at once taller and nobler <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="235b"/> and more handsome. And as I am generally accompanied by some strangers, who listen along with me, I become in their eyes also all at once more majestic; for they also manifestly share in my feelings with regard both to me and to the rest of our City, believing it to be more marvellous than before, owing to the persuasive eloquence of the speaker. And this majestic feeling remains with me for over three days: so persistently does the speech and voice <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="235c"/> of the orator ring in my ears that it is scarcely on the fourth or fifth day that I recover myself and remember that I really am here on earth, whereas till then I almost imagined myself to be living in the Islands of the Blessed,—so expert are our orators.</p></said><said who="#Menexenus"><label>Men.</label><p>You are always deriding the orators, Socrates. And truly I think that this time the selected speaker will not be too well prepared; for the selection is being made without warning, so that the speaker will probably be driven to improvise his speech. <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="235d"/> </p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Why so, my good sir? Each one of these men has speeches ready made; and what is more, it is in no wise difficult to improvise such things. For if it were a question of eulogizing Athenians before an audience of Peloponnesians, or Peloponnesians before Athenians, there would indeed be need of a good orator to win credence and credit; but when a man makes his effort in the presence of the very men whom he is praising, it is no difficult matter to win credit as a fine speaker.</p></said><said who="#Menexenus"><label>Men.</label><p>You think not, Socrates?</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Yes, by Zeus, I certainly do. <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="235e"/> </p></said><said who="#Menexenus"><label>Men.</label><p>And do you think that you yourself would be able to make the speech, if required and if the Council were to select you?</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>That I should be able to make the speech would be nothing wonderful, Menexenus; for she who is my instructor is by no means weak in the art of rhetoric; on the contrary, she has turned out many fine orators, and amongst them one who surpassed all other Greeks, Pericles, the son of Xanthippus.</p></said><said who="#Menexenus"><label>Men.</label><p>Who is she? But you mean Aspasia, <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">Aspasia of <placeName key="perseus,Miletus">Miletus</placeName>, famous as the mistress of the Athenian statesman Pericles (circa 430 B.C.).</note> no doubt.</p></said></div></div></body></text></TEI>