<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg024.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="83"><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Now watch his progress in recollecting, by the proper use of memory. Tell me, boy, <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="83"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="83a"/> do you say we get the double space from the double line? The space I speak of is not long one way and short the other, but must be equal each way like this one, while being double its size—eight square feet. Now see if you still think we get this from a double length of line.</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>I do.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Well, this line is doubled, if we add here another of the same length?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Certainly.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And you say we shall get our eight-foot space from four lines of this length?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes. </p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="83b"/><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Then let us describe the square, drawing four equal lines of that length. This will be what you say is the eight-foot figure, will it not?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Certainly.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And here, contained in it, have we not four squares, each of which is equal to this space of four feet?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Then how large is the whole? Four times that space, is it not?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>It must be.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And is four times equal to double?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>No, to be sure.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>But how much is it?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Fourfold. </p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="83c"/><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Thus, from the double-sized line, boy, we get a space, not of double, but of fourfold size.</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>That is true.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And if it is four times four it is sixteen, is it not?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>What line will give us a space of eight feet? This one gives us a fourfold space, does it not?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>It does.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And a space of four feet is made from this line of half the length?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Very well; and is not a space of eight feet double the size of this one, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="83d"/> and half the size of this other?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Will it not be made from a line longer than the one of these, and shorter than the other?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>I think so.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Excellent: always answer just what you think. Now tell me, did we not draw this line two feet, and that four?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Then the line on the side of the eight-foot figure should be more than this of two feet, and less than the other of four?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>It should. </p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="83e"/><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Try and tell me how much you would say it is.</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Three feet.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Then if it is to be three feet, we shall add on a half to this one, and so make it three feet? For here we have two, and here one more, and so again on that side there are two, and another one; and that makes the figure of which you speak.</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Now if it be three this way and three that way, the whole space will be thrice three feet, will it not?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>So it seems.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And thrice three feet are how many?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Nine.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>And how many feet was that double one to be?</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Eight.</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>So we fail to get our eight-foot figure from this three-foot line.</p></said><said who="#Meno's Boy"><label>Boy.</label><p>Yes, indeed.</p></said></div></div></body></text></TEI>