<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="294"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="294"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="294a"/><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Soc.</label><p>So you know everything, I asked, since you know anything?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Everything,</said> he replied; <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">yes, and you too, if you know one thing, know all.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Good Heavens, I cried, what a wonderful statement! What a great blessing to boast of! And the rest of mankind, do they know everything or nothing?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Surely,</said> he said, <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">they cannot know some things and not others, and so be at once knowing and unknowing.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>But what then? I asked.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">All men,</said> he replied, <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">know all things, if they know one.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>In the name of goodness, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="294b"/>Dionysodorus, I said—for now I can see both of you are serious; before, I could hardly prevail on you to be so—do you yourselves really know everything? Carpentry, for instance, and shoe-making?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Certainly,</said> he said.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And you are good hands at leather-stitching?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Why yes, in faith, and cobbling,</said> he said.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And are you good also at such things as counting the stars, and the sand?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Certainly,</said> he said: <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">can you think we would not admit that also?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Here Ctesippus broke in: <said who="#Ctesippus" direct="false">Be so good, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="294c"/>Dionysodorus, he said, as to place some such evidence before me as will convince me that what you say is true.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">What shall I put forward?</said> he asked.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Ctesippus" direct="false">Do you know how many teeth Euthydemus has, and does Euthydemus know how many you have?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Are you not content,</said> he rejoined, <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">to be told that we know everything?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Ctesippus" direct="false">No, do not say that,</said> he replied: <said who="#Ctesippus" direct="false">only tell us this one thing more, and propound to us that you speak the truth. Then, if you tell us how many teeth each of you has, and you are found by our counting to have known it, we shall believe you thenceforth in everything else likewise.</said> 
					
					<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="294d"/> Well, as they supposed we were making fun of them, they would not do it: only they agreed that they knew all subjects, when questioned on them, one after the other, by Ctesippus; who, before he had done with them, asked them if they knew every kind of thing, even the most unseemly, without the least reserve; while they most valiantly encountered his questions, agreeing that they had the knowledge in each case, like boars when driven up to face the spears: so that I for my part, Crito, became quite incredulous,and had to ask in the end if Dionysodorus knew <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="294e"/>also how to dance. To which he replied: <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">Certainly.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>I do not suppose, I said, that you have attained such a degree of skill as to do sword-dancing, or be whirled about on a wheel, at your time of life?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">There is nothing,</said> he said, <said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">that I cannot do.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Then tell me, I went on, do you know everything at present only, or for ever?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus" direct="false">For ever too,</said> he said.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And when you were children, and were just born, you knew?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Dionysodorus #Euthydemus" direct="false">Everything,</said> they both replied together.</p></said></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="295"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="295"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="295a"/><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Soc.</label><p>Now, to us the thing seemed incredible: then Euthydemus said: <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">You do not believe it, Socrates?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>I will only say, I replied, that you must indeed be clever.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Why,</said> he said, <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">if you will consent to answer me, I will propound that you too admit these surprising facts.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Oh, I am only too glad, I replied, to be refuted in the matter. For if I am not aware of my own cleverness, and you are going to show me that I know everything always, what greater stroke of luck than this could befall me in all my living days?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Then answer me,</said> he said.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Ask: I am ready to answer. <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="295b"/> 
							
<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Well then, Socrates, he asked, have you knowledge of something, or not?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>I have.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">And tell me, do you know with that whereby you have knowledge, or with something else?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>With that whereby I have knowledge: I think you mean the soul, or is not that your meaning?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Are you not ashamed, Socrates,</said> he said, <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">to ask a question on your side when you are being questioned?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Very well, I said: but how am I to proceed? I will do just as you bid me. When I cannot tell what you are asking, is it your order that I answer all the same, without asking a question upon it?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Why,</said> he replied, <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">you surely conceive <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="295c"/>some meaning in what I say?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>I do, I replied.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Answer then to the meaning you conceive to be in my words.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Well, I said, if you ask a question with a different meaning in your mind from that which I conceive, and I answer to the latter, are you content I should answer nothing to the point?

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">For my part,</said> he replied, <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">I shall be content: you, however, will not, so far as I can see.</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Then I declare I shall not answer, I said, before I get it right.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">You refuse to answer,</said> he said, <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">to the meaning you conceive in each case, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="295d"/>because you will go on driveling, you hopeless old dotard!</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>Here I perceived he was annoyed with me for distinguishing between the phrases used, when he wanted to entrap me in his verbal snares. So I remembered Connus, how he too is annoyed with me whenever I do not give in to him, with the result that he now takes less trouble over me as being a stupid person. So being minded to take lessons from this new teacher, I decided that I had better give in, lest he should take me for a blockhead and not admit me to his classes. So I said: Well, if you think fit, Euthydemus, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="295e"/>to proceed thus, we must do so; in any case I suppose you understand debating better than I do—you are versed in the method, and I am but a layman. Begin your questions, then, over again.

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">Now, answer me once more,</said> he said: <said who="#Euthydemus" direct="false">do you know what you know by means of something, or not?</said>

<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>I do, I replied; by means of my soul.</p></said></div></div></body></text></TEI>