<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg010.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="11"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="11"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="11a"/><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> Observe, then, Protarchus, what the doctrine is which you are now to accept from Philebus, and what our doctrine is, against which you are to argue, if you do not agree with it. 
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="11b"/>Shall we make a brief statement of each of them?</said></p><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> By all means.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> Very well:  Philebus says that to all living beings enjoyment and pleasure and gaiety and whatever accords with that sort of thing are a good;  whereas our contention is that not these, but wisdom and thought and memory and their kindred, right opinion and true reasonings,
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="11c"/>are better and more excellent than pleasure for all who are capable of taking part in them, and that for all those now existing or to come who can partake of them they are the most advantageous of all things.  Those are pretty nearly the two doctrines we maintain, are they not, Philebus?</said></p><p><said who="#Philebus"><label>Phi.</label> Yes, Socrates, exactly.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> And do you, Protarchus, accept this doctrine which is now committed to you?</said></p><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> I must accept it;  for our handsome Philebus has withdrawn.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> And must the truth about these doctrines be attained by every possible means?</said></p><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="11d"/><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> Yes, it must.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> Then let us further agree to this:</said></p><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> To what?</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> That each of us will next try to prove clearly that it is a condition and disposition of the soul which can make life happy for all human beings.  Is not that what we are going to do?</said></p><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> It is.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> Then you will show that it is the condition of pleasure, and I that it is that of wisdom?</said></p><p><said who="#Protarchus"><label>Pro.</label> True.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label> What if some other life be found superior to these two? 
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="11e"/>Then if that life is found to be more akin to pleasure, both of us are defeated, are we not, by the life which has firm possession of this superiority,
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="12"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="12a"/>but the life of pleasure is victor over the life of wisdom.</said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>