<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg006.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="203"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="203"/><milestone n="203a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Let us, then, take them up and examine them, or rather, let us examine ourselves and see whether it was in accordance with this theory, or not, that we learned letters.  First then, the syllables have a rational explanation, but the letters have not?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> I suppose so.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> I think so, too, decidedly.  Now if anyone should ask about the first syllable of Socrates;  <q type="spoken">Theaetetus, tell me, what is SO?</q>  What would you reply?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> I should say <q type="spoken">S and O.</q></said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> This, then, is your explanation of the syllable?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> Yes.</said></p><milestone n="203b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Come now, in the same manner give me the explanation of the S.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> How can one give any elements of an element?  For really, Socrates, the S is a voiceless letter, <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">The distinction here made is that which we make between vowels and consonants.  The seven Greek vowels are <foreign xml:lang="grc">α, ε, η, ι, ο, υ, ω</foreign> called <foreign xml:lang="grc">φωνήεντα</foreign>.</note> a mere noise, as of the tongue hissing;  B again has neither voice nor noise, nor have most of the other letters;  and so it is quite right to say that they have no explanation, seeing that the most distinct of them, the seven vowels, have only voice, but no explanation whatsoever.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> In this point, then, my friend, it would seem that we have reached a right conclusion about knowledge.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> I think we have.</said></p><milestone n="203c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> But have we been right in laying down the principle that whereas the letter is unknowable, yet the syllable is knowable?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> Probably.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Well then, shall we say that the syllable is the two letters, or, if there be more than two, all of them, or is it a single concept that has arisen from their combination?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> I think we mean all the letters it contains.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Now take the case of two, S and O.  The two together are the first syllable of my name.  He who knows it knows the two letters, does he not?</said></p><milestone n="203d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> Of course.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> He knows, that is, the S and the O.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> Yes.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> How is that?  He is ignorant of each, and knowing neither of them he knows them both?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> That is monstrous and absurd, Socrates.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> And yet if a knowledge of each letter is necessary before one can know both, he who is ever to know a syllable must certainly know the letters first, and so our fine theory will have run away and vanished!</said></p><milestone n="203e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> And very suddenly, too.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Yes, for we are not watching it carefully.  Perhaps we ought to have said that the syllable is not the letters, but a single concept that has arisen from them, having a single form of its own, different from the letters.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> Certainly;  and perhaps that will be better than the other way.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>SOC.</label> Let us look into that;  we must not give up in such unmanly fashion a great and impressive theory.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>THEAET.</label> No, we must not.</said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>