<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg005.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="421"><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> I ask, then, about the greatest and noblest words,
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="421"/><milestone n="421a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>truth (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀλήθεια</foreign>), falsehood (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ψεῦδος</foreign>), being (<foreign xml:lang="grc">τὸ ὄν</foreign>), and why name, the subject of our whole discourse, has the name <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὄνομα</foreign>.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Does the word <foreign xml:lang="grc">μαίσθαι</foreign> (search) mean anything to you?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes, it means <gloss>seek.</gloss></said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> The word <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὄνομα</foreign> seems to be a word composed from a sentence signifying <q type="emph">this is a being about which our search is.</q> You can recognize that more readily in the adjective <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὀνομαστόν</foreign>, for that says clearly that this is
<milestone n="421b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><foreign xml:lang="grc">ὄν οὗ μάσμα ἐστίν</foreign> (being of which the search is).  And <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀλήθεια</foreign> (truth) is like the others;  for the divine motion of the universe is, I think, called by this name, <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀλήθεια</foreign>, because it is a divine wandering <foreign xml:lang="grc">θεία ἄλη</foreign>.  But <foreign xml:lang="grc">ψεῦδος</foreign> (falsehood) is the opposite of motion;  for once more that which is held back and forced to be quiet is found fault with, and it is compared to slumberers (<foreign xml:lang="grc">εὕουσι</foreign>);  but the addition of the psi conceals the meaning of the word.  The words <foreign xml:lang="grc">τὸ ὄν</foreign> (being) and <foreign xml:lang="grc">οὐσία</foreign> (existence) agree with <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀληθής</foreign> with the loss of iota, for they mean <gloss>going</gloss> (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἰόν</foreign>).  And <foreign xml:lang="grc">οὐκ ὄν</foreign> (not being) means <foreign xml:lang="grc">οὐκ ἰόν</foreign> (not going),
<milestone n="421c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>and indeed some people pronounce it so.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> I think you have knocked these words to pieces manfully, Socrates;  but if anyone should ask you what propriety or correctness there was in these words that you have employed—<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἰόν</foreign> and <foreign xml:lang="grc">ρἕον</foreign> and <foreign xml:lang="grc">δοῦν</foreign>—</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> What answer should I make?  Is that your meaning?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes, exactly.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> We acquired just now one way of making an answer with a semblance of sense in it.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> What way was that?</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Saying, if there is a word we do not know about, that it is of foreign origin.
<milestone n="421d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>Now this may be true of some of them, and also on account of the lapse of time it may be impossible to find out about the earliest words;  for since words get twisted in all sorts of ways, it would not be in the least wonderful if the ancient Greek word should be identical with the modern foreign one.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> That is not unlikely.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> It is indeed quite probable.  However, we must play the game<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">A proverbial expression.</note> and investigate these questions vigorously.  But let us bear in mind that if a person asks
<milestone n="421e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>about the words by means of which names are formed, and again about those by means of which those words were formed, and keeps on doing this indefinitely, he who answers his questions will at last give up;  will he not?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes, I think so.
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