<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg005.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="383"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="383"/><milestone n="383a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Here is Socrates;  shall we take him as a partner in our discussion?</said></p><p><said who="#Cratylus"><label>Cratylus.</label> If you like.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Cratylus, whom you see here, Socrates, says that everything has a right name of its own, which comes by nature, and that a name is not whatever people call a thing by agreement, just a piece of their own voice applied to the thing, but that there is a kind of inherent correctness in names, which is the same for all men,
<milestone n="383b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>both Greeks and barbarians.  So I ask him whether his name is in truth Cratylus, and he agrees that it is.  <q type="spoken">And what is Socrates’ name?</q> I said.  <q type="spoken">Socrates,</q> said he.  <q type="spoken">Then that applies to all men, and the particular name by which we call each person is his name?</q>  And he said, <q type="spoken">Well, your name is not Hermogenes,<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">i.e. you are no son of Hermes.  Hermes was the patron deity of traders, bankers, and the like, and Hermogenes, as is suggested below, was not successful as a moneymaker.</note> even if all mankind call you so.</q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>