<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" n="26"><p><q rend="double">Perfectly well,</q> say some, <q rend="double">provided that we protect <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> and are allied with <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName>.</q> But if <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> attacks <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName>, shall we go to her help or not? For we shall assuredly have no choice but to follow the one course or the other. Yet should we withhold our help, we are left without a single argument wherewith to justify ourselves or to show that <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> has not the right to act as she pleases. On the other hand, should we give her our aid, is not a conflict with <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> inevitable? And to what end? To enable us to lose our own territory as well as that of <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> in the event of defeat, and to secure <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> for <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> in the event of victory. Will not that prove to be our object in fighting? </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" n="27"><p rend="align(indent)">Now let us examine the <placeName key="tgn,5001993">Argive</placeName> proposals in their turn. <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> urges us to join <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> and herself in maintaining the war; yet in virtue of a private peace which she has negotiated,<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">Possibly a reference to the <placeName key="tgn,5001993">Argive</placeName> trick of celebrating a <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἱερομηνία</foreign>, or <q rend="double">sacred month,</q> when <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> was about to invade their territory. The <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἱερομηνία</foreign> was taken up with the festival of the Carneia, and it was traditional among Dorians that war could not be waged in the course of it. See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 4.7.2">Xen. Hell. 4.7.2</bibl>.</note> she has withdrawn her own territory from the field of hostilities. She forbids us to place the least trust in <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, although all our allies are joining us in making peace; yet she admits that <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>’s treaty with herself, which was made without any such support, has been faithfully observed. Again, <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> calls her own peace traditional, but forbids the other Greeks to secure a traditional peace for themselves: the reason being that she expects to annex <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> by prolonging the war, and after gaining control of the state which has always controlled her, she hopes to extend her influence over her partners in victory as well. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" n="28"><p rend="align(indent)">Such are the prospects to which we are committed; and we have a choice between two alternatives, that of joining <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> in fighting <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, and that of joining <placeName key="tgn,7002683">Boeotia</placeName> in making common peace with her. Now what alarms me above all else, gentlemen, is our old, old fault of invariably abandoning powerful friends in preference for weak, and of going to war for the sake of others when, as far as we ourselves are concerned, we could perfectly well remain at peace. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" n="29"><p>Thus—and it is only by calling the past to mind that one can properly determine policy—we began by making a truce with the Great King and establishing a permanent accord with him, thanks to the diplomacy of my mother’s brother, Epilycus, the son of Teisander.<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">Epilycus is not mentioned elsewhere. The last formal peace negotiated between <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> and <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName> had been the Peace of Callias, c. <date from="-0462" to="-0460">462</date>-460 B.C. Andocides may have in mind the deputation which was sent to the Persian Court in 424 (<bibl n="Thuc. 4.50">Thuc. 4.50</bibl>).</note> But later the king’s runaway slave, Amorges,<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">Amorges was the son of a rebel satrap of <placeName key="tgn,7016631">Lydia</placeName> named Pissuthnes. After the recovery of <placeName key="tgn,7016631">Lydia</placeName> by Tissaphernes Amorges took refuge in <placeName key="tgn,7002358">Caria</placeName>. He was given shelter by Iasus, a member of the Athenian Confederacy. Iasus was stormed by the Spartans in 412 on the instigation of Tissaphernes, and Amorges was handed over to the Persians (<bibl n="Thuc. 8.5.5">Thuc. 8.5.5</bibl>).</note> induced us to discard the powerful support of his master as worthless. We chose instead what we imagined to be a more advantageous understanding with Amorges himself. The king in his anger replied by allying himself with <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>,<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">In 413. The sum mentioned is an exaggeration. From 413 to 407 Tissaphernes made it a point of policy to withhold subsidies from the Spartans as far as possible in order to prolong the war and weaken both combatants. In 407 he was superseded by Cyrus, who brought with him 500 talents for the improvement of the Spartan navy.</note> and furnished her with five thousand talents with which to prosecute the war; nor was he satisfied until he had overthrown our empire. That is one instance of such policy. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0027.tlg003.perseus-eng2" n="30"><p rend="align(indent)">Again, an urgent request came to us from <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName>; she was ready to end our differences by a pact of friendship, to end war by peace; and she pointed out the advantages of an alliance with herself, if only we would consent to it, over those of the existing alliance with Segesta and <placeName key="perseus,Catana">Catana</placeName>.<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true"><placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> had formed an alliance with Segesta as early as 453 (I.G. i 2 . 19-20). It was renewed in 424 by Laches. In 416 Segesta found herself ranged against the combined forces of <placeName key="perseus,Selinus">Selinus</placeName> and <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName>. She appealed to <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> for help, and the disastrous Syracusan expedition resulted.</note> But once more we chose war instead of peace, Segesta instead of <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName>; instead of staying at home as the allies of <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName>, we chose to send an armament to <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName>. The result was the loss of a large part of the Athenian and allied forces, the bravest being the first to fall; a reckless waste of ships, money, and resources: and the return of the survivors in disgrace. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>