<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0014.tlg016.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="6"><p rend="indent">But perhaps we shall admit that that is how matters ought to stand, but feel that it is monstrous to choose as our allies the men whose ranks we faced at <placeName key="perseus,Mantinea">Mantinea</placeName>,<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">The Athenians fought on the left wing of the Lacedaemonians at <placeName key="perseus,Mantinea">Mantinea</placeName> against Thebans, Arcadians and other allies of <placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName>.</note> and even to help them against those with whom we shared the dangers of that battle. And I too am of that opinion, but I think we must add the saving clause, <q type="emph">if the others consent to do what is just.</q></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p>If, then, all the powers consent to keep peace, we will not help the Megalopolitans, for it will be unnecessary, so that there will be no question of our opposing our comrades in arms; some of them, indeed, already profess to be our allies, and the others will now come into line. And what more could we desire.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p>But if the Lacedaemonians act unjustly and insist on fighting, then, on the one hand, if the only question to be decided is whether we shall abandon <placeName key="perseus,Megalopolis">Megalopolis</placeName> to them or not, just indeed it is not, but I for my part agree to allow it and to offer no opposition to the people who shared the same dangers with us<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">At <placeName key="perseus,Mantinea">Mantinea</placeName>.</note>; but, on the other hand, if you are all aware that the capture of <placeName key="perseus,Megalopolis">Megalopolis</placeName> will be followed by an attack on <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName>, I ask any of those who are now so hard on the Megalopolitans to tell me what he will advise us to do then.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="9"><p>But I shall get no answer. Yet you all know that, whether these speakers advise it or not, you are bound to help the Messenians, both for the sake of your sworn agreement with them and for the advantage that you derive from the preservation of their city. Just ask yourselves at what point you would begin to make your stand against Lacedaemonian injustice with more honor and generosity—with the defence of <placeName key="perseus,Megalopolis">Megalopolis</placeName> or with the defence of <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName>.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="10"><p>In the one case, you will show yourselves ready to help the Arcadians and eager to confirm the peace for which you faced danger on the field of battle. In the other case, everyone will see clearly that you wish to preserve <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName> less for the sake of justice than for fear of the Lacedaemonians. But the proper course is in all things to find out what is right and then do it, though at the same time we must take care that what we do is expedient as well.</p></div></div></body></text></TEI>