All the same, if that is to be my fate, I will choose rather to be charged with talking nonsense than allow you to be misled by certain speakers, contrary to what I judge to be best for the city. Other points I will, with your permission, discuss later, but now, starting from principles admitted by all, I will try to explain what I consider the best policy. Now no one would deny that our city is benefited by the weakness of the Lacedaemonians and of the Thebans yonder. A gesture reminds his hearers how near neighbors the Thebans were. The position of affairs, then, if one may judge from statements repeatedly made in your Assembly, is such that the Thebans will be weakened by the refounding of Orchomenus , Thespiae and Plataea , but the Lacedaemonians will regain their power, if they get Arcadia into their hands and destroy Megalopolis .