<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="186" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For such men are much more deserving of our praise than those who, while ready and
          willing to face death to gain the possessions of others, are yet in no wise different from
          hireling soldiers. For these are the acts of men depraved, and if men of honest purpose
          sometimes come off worse in the struggle than men who desire to do injustice, we may
          attribute this to negligence of the gods. </p></div><div n="187" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But I might apply this point also to the misfortune which befell the Spartans at
            <placeName key="perseus,Thermopylae">Thermopylae</placeName>, which all who have heard
          of it praise and admire more than the battles and victories which have been won over
          adversaries against whom wars ought never to have been waged,<note resp="editor">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 5.148">Isoc. 5.148</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 4.90">Isoc.
              4.90</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 6.99">Isoc. 6.99-100</bibl>.</note> albeit some are
          without scruple in extolling such successes, not realizing that nothing is either
          righteous or honorable which is not said or done with justice.<note resp="editor">The high moral tone here is, like the plea for absolute justice as a principle
            of foreign policy in the Peace, inconsistent with the “practical” doctrine of <bibl n="Isoc. 12.117">Isoc. 12.117-118</bibl>. See note on 118.</note>
        </p></div><div n="188" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But the Spartans have never given a thought to this truth; for they look to no other
          object than that of securing for themselves as many of the possessions of other peoples as
          they can. Our ancestors, on the other hand, have shown concern for nothing in the world so
          much as for a good name among the Hellenes; for they considered that there could be no
          truer or fairer judgement than that which is rendered by a whole race of people. </p></div><div n="189" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And they have been manifestly of this mind both in their government of the state in other
          respects and in the conduct of the greatest affairs. For in the three wars,<note resp="editor">Three “wars,” with no attention to chronology: (1) that
            against Xerxes; (2) the warfare connected with the Ionian Colonization; (3) four
            campaigns summarized as one, all dealing with invasions: (a) that against Eumolpus and
            the Thracians; (b) that against the Scythians; (c) that against Eurystheus; (d) that
            against Dareius.</note> apart from the Trojan war, which were fought by the Hellenes
          against the barbarians—in all these they placed our city in the forefront of the fighting.
          Of these wars, one was the struggle against Xerxes,<note resp="editor">See
              <bibl n="Isoc. 12.49">Isoc. 12.49 ff.</bibl></note> in which they were as much
          superior to the Lacedaemonians in every crisis as were the latter to the rest of the
          Hellenes. </p></div><div n="190" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Another was the war connected with the founding of the colonies,<note resp="editor">See <bibl n="Isoc. 12.42">Isoc. 12.42 ff.</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 12.164">Isoc. 12.164 ff.</bibl></note> in which none of the Dorians came to help them, but in
          which Athens, having been made the leader of those who were lacking in the means of
          subsistence and of all others who desired to join with her, so completely reversed the
          state of affairs that, whereas the barbarians had been wont in times past to seize and
          hold the greatest cities of <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName>, she placed
          the Hellenes in a position where they were able to do what they had formerly suffered.
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