<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg020.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="51" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now as to the Argives, you will see that in some respects they are no better off than
          the Lacedaemonians, while in others their condition is worse; for they have been in a
          state of war with their neighbors<note resp="editor">The Spartans.</note> from
          the day they founded their city, just as have the Lacedaemonians; but there is this
          difference, that the neighbors of the Lacedaemonians are weaker than they, while those of
          the Argives are stronger—a condition which all would admit to be the greatest of
          misfortunes. And so unsuccessful are they in their warfare that hardly a year passes that
          they are not compelled to witness their own territory being ravaged and laid waste.<note resp="editor">This was done by the Spartans six years before this. <bibl n="Diod. 16.39">Dio. Sic. 16.39</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="52" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But what is most deplorable of all is that, during the intervals when their enemies cease
          from harrying them, they themselves put to death the most eminent and wealthy of their
            citizens;<note resp="editor">The conflict between democracy and oligarchy,
            which raged with varying intensity in most of the Greek cities, in <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> was most bitter. In <date when="-0371">371
              B.C.</date> occurred a massacre in which twelve hundred of the leading men were slain
            by the mob. <bibl n="Diod. 15.57">Dio. Sic. 15.57-58</bibl>; Grote, <title>Hist.</title>
            ix. p. 417.</note> and they have more pleasure in doing this than any other people have
          in slaying their foes. The cause of their living in such disorder is none other than the
          state of war; and if you can put a stop to this, you will not only deliver them from these
          evils but you will cause them to adopt a better policy with respect to their other
          interests as well. </p></div><div n="53" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> And as for the condition of the Thebans, surely you have not failed to note that also.
          They won a splendid victory<note resp="editor">Battle of Leuctra, <date when="-0371">371 B.C.</date></note> and covered themselves with glory, but because
          they did not make good use of their success they are now in no better case than those who
          have suffered defeat and failure. For no sooner had they triumphed over their foes than,
          neglecting everything else, they began to annoy the cities of the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnese</placeName>;<note resp="editor">Epaminondas
            invaded the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnese</placeName> in 369, 368, 366, 362,
            stirring up the cities there against <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>.
              <bibl n="Diod. 15.62">Dio. Sic. 15.62-75</bibl>.</note> they made bold to reduce
            <placeName key="tgn,7001399">Thessaly</placeName> to subjection;<note resp="editor">By conquering Alexander of Pherae. <bibl n="Diod. 15.67">Dio. Sic.
              15.67</bibl>.</note> they threatened their neighbors, the Megarians;<note resp="editor">The Megarians sided with <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> when Agesilaus invaded <placeName key="tgn,7002683">Boeotia</placeName> in 378. <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.4.41">Xen. Hell.
            5.4.41</bibl>.</note> they robbed our city of a portion of its territory;<note resp="editor">The border town of Oropus, <date when="-0366">366 B.C.</date>
            <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 7.4.1">Xen. Hell. 7.4.1</bibl>.</note> they ravaged <placeName key="tgn,7002677">Euboea</placeName>;<note resp="editor">See <bibl n="Dem. 18.99">Dem. 18.99</bibl>.</note> they sent men-of-war to <placeName key="perseus,Byzantium">Byzantium</placeName>,<note resp="editor">One
            hundred ships under Epaminondas, <date when="-0364">364 B.C.</date>
            <bibl n="Diod. 15.78">Dio. Sic. 15.78-79</bibl>.</note> as if they purposed to rule both
          land and sea; </p></div><div n="54" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and, finally, they began war upon the Phocians,<note resp="editor">Ten years,
              <date from="-0356" to="-0346">356-346 B.C.</date> See <bibl n="Isoc. 5.50">Isoc. 5.50</bibl>.</note> expecting that in a short time they would conquer their
          cities, occupy all the surrounding territory, and prevail over all the treasures at
            <placeName key="perseus,Delphi">Delphi</placeName><note resp="editor">The
            Phocians met their expenses in the war from the rich treasures in the Temple of Apollo
            at <placeName key="perseus,Delphi">Delphi</placeName>.</note> by the outlay of their own
          funds. But none of these hopes has been realized; instead of seizing the cities of the
          Phocians they have lost cities of their own;<note resp="editor"><placeName key="tgn,7011034">Orchomenus</placeName>, Coroneia, Corsiae. <bibl n="Diod. 16.33">Dio. Sic. 16.33-58</bibl>.</note> and now when they invade the enemy’s territory they
          inflict less damage upon them than they suffer when they are retreating to their own
          country; </p></div><div n="55" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for while they are in Phocian territory they succeed in killing a few hireling<note resp="editor">The Phocian forces were composed mainly of mercenaries.</note>
          soldiers who are better off dead than alive, but when they retreat they lose of their own
          citizens those who are most esteemed and most ready to die for their fatherland. And so
          completely have their fortunes shifted, that whereas they once hoped that all <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> would be subject to them, now they rest upon
            you<note resp="editor">The war was concluded shortly after this by the
            intervention of Philip against the Phocians.</note> the hopes of their own deliverance.
          Therefore I think that the Thebans also will do with alacrity whatever you command or
          advise. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>