<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg017.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="11" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>since they could not convert you to their way of thinking until they have first made
          clear what is for your advantage. But, apart from these considerations, how can men wisely
          pass judgement on the past or take counsel for the future unless they examine and compare
          the arguments of opposing speakers, themselves giving an unbiased hearing<note resp="editor">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 15.21">Isoc. 15.21</bibl>; <bibl n="Dem. 18.6">Dem. 18.6</bibl>.</note> to both sides? </p></div><div n="12" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But I marvel that the older men no longer recall and that the younger have not been told
          by anyone that the orators who exhort us to cling fast to peace have never caused us to
          suffer any misfortune whatsoever, whereas those who lightly espouse war have already
          plunged us into many great disasters. However, we have no memory for these facts but are
          always ready, without in the least advancing our own welfare, to man triremes, to levy
          war-taxes, and to lend aid to the campaigns of others or wage war against them, as chance
          may determine, as if imperilling the interests, not of our own, but of a foreign state.
        </p></div><div n="13" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And the cause of this condition of affairs is that, although you ought to be as much
          concerned about the business of the commonwealth as about your own, you do not feel the
          same interest in the one as in the other; on the contrary, whenever you take counsel
          regarding your private business you seek out as counsellors men who are your superiors in
          intelligence, but whenever you deliberate on the business of the state you distrust and
          dislike men of that character and cultivate, instead, the most depraved<note resp="editor">The private morals of men like Eubulus, Callistratus (see
            Theopompus in <bibl n="Ath. 4.166e">Athen. 4.166e</bibl>), and Philocrates (see <bibl n="Aeschin. 2.52">Aeschin. 2.52</bibl>) apparently left much to be desired.</note> of
          the orators who come before you on this platform; and you prefer as being better friends
          of the people those who are drunk<note resp="editor">Aristotle (<bibl n="Aristot. Ath. Pol. 34">Aristot. Ath. Pol. 34</bibl>) states that when, after the
            battle of Arginusae, <date when="-0406">406 B.C.</date>, the Spartans made overtures of
            peace the demagogue Cleophon came before the Assembly drunk and prevented the Athenians
            from accepting the terms. With this paragraph should be compared <bibl n="Isoc. 15.316">Isoc. 15.316</bibl> and note.</note> to those who are sober, those who are witless to
          those who are wise, and those who dole out the public money<note resp="editor">The reference is particularly to Eubulus, who caused to be set aside a portion of the
            public revenues (the “surplus” mentioned in <bibl n="Isoc. 8.82">Isoc. 8.82</bibl>) as a
            “theoric” fund to be distributed to the people at the public festivals.</note> to those
          who perform public services<note resp="editor">See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.128">Isoc.
              8.128</bibl>, note.</note> at their own expense. So that we may well marvel that
          anyone can expect a state which employs such counsellors to advance to better things. </p></div><div n="14" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But I know that it is hazardous to oppose your views<note resp="editor">Cf.
            Socrates in <bibl n="Plat. Apol. 31e">Plat. Apol. 31e</bibl>: “No man in the world can
            preserve his life if he honestly opposes himself to you or to any other people and
            attempts to prevent many unjust and lawless things from being done by the state.”</note>
          and that, although this is a free government, there exists no ‘freedom of speech’<note resp="editor">The pride of <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>. See <bibl n="Hdt. 5.78">Hdt. 5.78</bibl>; <bibl n="Eur. Hipp. 422">Eur. Hipp. 422</bibl>.</note> except that which is enjoyed in this
          Assembly by the most reckless orators, who care nothing for your welfare, and in the
          theater by the comic poets.<note resp="editor">The poets of the old comedy
            exercised an incredible degree of license in ridiculing everything, divine or human,
            particularly the foibles of the state. These comedies were given at the festival of
            Dionysus, when many visitors from other states were in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>. Aristophanes himself says (<bibl n="Aristoph. Ach. 500">Aristoph.
              Ach. 500 ff.</bibl>) that he was attacked by Cleon for “abusing <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> in the presence of strangers.”</note> And,
          what is most outrageous of all, you show greater favor to those who publish the failings
          of <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> to the rest of the Hellenes than you
          show even to those who benefit the city, while you are as ill-disposed to those who rebuke
          and admonish you<note resp="editor">Isocrates resents their attitude towards
            himself in the opening remarks of the <title>Antidosis</title> (<bibl n="Isoc. 15">Isoc.
              15</bibl>).</note> as you are to men who work injury to the state. </p></div><div n="15" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Nevertheless, in spite of these conditions, I shall not desist from what I had in mind
          to say. For I have come before you, not to seek your favor nor to solicit your votes, but
          to make known the views I hold, first, regarding the proposals which have been put before
          you by the Prytaneis,<note resp="editor">The Senate of the Five Hundred was
            divided into ten committees of 50, each serving a tenth part of the year. Such a
            committee was called a prytany and its members prytaneis. The prytany formulated
            measures to be brought before the General Assembly.</note> and, second, regarding the
          other interests of the state; for no good will come of the resolutions which have now been
          made regarding the peace<note resp="editor">See Introduction, p. 2, note
            c.</note> unless we are well advised also with regard to what remains to be done. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>