<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0007.tlg132.perseus-eng3"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="3"><p rend="indent">For what sort of dinner is not costly for which a living creature loses its life? Do we hold a life cheap? I do not yet go so far as to say that it may well be the life<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">That is, <q>the reincarnated life.</q> </note> of your mother or father or some friend or child, as Empedocles<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">As in frag. B 137 (Diels-Kranz, <title rend="italic" xml:lang="deu">Frag. der Vorsok.</title> i, p. 275).</note> declared. Yet it does, at least, possess some perception, hearing, seeing, imagination, intelligence, which last every creature receives from Nature to enable it to acquire what is proper for it and to evade what is not. Do but consider which are the philosophers who serve the better to humanize us: those<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> von Arnim, <title rend="italic" xml:lang="lat">S.V.F.</title> iii, p. 186.</note> who bid us eat our children and friends and fathers and wives after their death,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">That is, they tell us to eat meat without compunction, because human beings are only mortal, and their souls are not reincarnated in animals.</note> or Pythagoras<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> 993 a <foreign xml:lang="lat">supra</foreign>. The argument is somewhat weakened by the fact (certainly well known to Plutarch, <foreign xml:lang="lat">e.g.</foreign> <title rend="italic" xml:lang="lat">Mor.</title> 286 d-e) that Pythagoras placed an even more stringent taboo on beans than he did on meat.</note> and Empedocles who try to accustom us to act justly toward other creatures also? You ridicule a man who abstains from eating mutton. But are we, they<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Pythagoras and Empedocles.</note> will say, to refrain from laughter when we see you slicing off portions from a dead father or mother and sending them to absent friends and inviting those who are at hand, heaping their <pb xml:id="v.12.p.571"/> plates with flesh? But as it is, perhaps we commit a sin when we touch these books of theirs without cleansing our hands and faces, our feet and ears - unless, by Heaven, it is a purification of those members to speak on such a subject as this, <q>washing,</q> as Plato<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title rend="italic">Phaedrus</title>, 243 d; <foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign><title rend="italic" xml:lang="lat">Mor.</title> 627 f, 706 e, 711 d.</note> says, <q>the brine from one’s ears with the fresh water of discourse.</q> If one should compare these two sets of books and doctrines,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">That is, of the two schools of philosophy mentioned above in 997 e.</note> the former may serve as philosophy for the Scyths and Sogdians and the Black Cloaks, whose story as told by Herodotus<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Plutarch seems to have confused the Black Cloaks (Herodotus, iv. 20, but <foreign xml:lang="lat">cf.</foreign> iv. 107) with the Issedones (iv. 26); and perhaps the Sogdians (iii. 93) with the Padaei (iii. 99); <foreign xml:lang="lat">cf.</foreign> also i. 216 and iii. 38.</note> gains no credit<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">But this clause looks like a semi-learned addition.</note>; but the precepts of Pythagoras<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> 964 e-f <foreign xml:lang="lat">supra</foreign>.</note> and Empedocles were the laws for the ancient Greeks, along with their diet of wheat <gap reason="lost" rend="..."/><note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">There seems to be a lacuna here followed by an interpolation from chapter 6 or 7.</note> [Because there is no question of justice between us and the irrational animals.] </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>