ODYSSEUS. Bless me, Gryllus, you must once have been a very clever sophist, Gryllus acknowledges the truth of this soft impeachment later on, 989 b, infra . one may judge, since even as things are, and speaking from your swinishness, you can attack the subject with such fervent ardour. But why have you failed to discuss temperance, the next in order? GRYLLUS. Because I thought that you would first wish to take exception to what I have said. But you are eager to hear about temperance since you are the husband of a model of chastity and believe that you yourself have given a proof of self-control by rejecting the embraces of Circe. And in this you are no more continent than any of the beasts; for neither do they desire to consort with their betters, but pursue both pleasure and love with mates of like species. So it is no wonder that, like the Mendesian Cf. Herodotus, ii. 46; Strabo xvii. 19; and contrast Aelian, De Natura Animal. vii. 19. goat in Egypt which, when shut up with many beautiful women, is said not to be eager to consort with them, but is far more excited about nannies, you likewise are contented with the kind of love that is familiar to you and, being a mortal, are not eager to sleep with a goddess. As for the chastity of Penelope, the cawing of countless crows will pour laughter and contempt upon it; for every crow, if her mate dies, remains a widow, not merely for a short time, but for nine generations of men. Cf. Mor. 415 c and the note there. It follows that your fair Penelope is nine times inferior in chastity to any crow you please.