<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0007.tlg129.perseus-eng3"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="6"><p rend="indent"><said who="#Soclarus"><label>SOCLARUS.</label> Your inference seems quite justified. For the Stoics<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Von Arnim, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">S.V.F.</title> iii, p. 90.</note> and Peripatetics strenuously argue on the other side, to the effect that justice could not then come into existence, but would remain completely without form or substance, if all the beasts partake of reason. For<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">From this point to the end of chapter 6 (964 c) the text is quoted by Porphyry, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">De Abstinentia</title>, i. 4-6 (pp. 88-89, ed. Nauck); <foreign xml:lang="lat">cf.</foreign> the note on 959 f <foreign xml:lang="lat">supra</foreign>.</note> either we are necessarily unjust if we do not spare them; or, if we do not take them for food, life becomes impracticable or impossible; in a sense we shall be living the life of beasts once we give up the use of beasts.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title xml:lang="lat">Cf. <title>Mor</title>.</title> 86 d.</note> I omit the numberless hosts of Nomads and Troglodytes who know no other food but flesh. As for us who believe our lives to be civilized and humane, it is hard to say what pursuit on land or sea, what aerial art,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">That is beasts, fish, and fowl in earth, sea, and air.</note> what refinement of living, is left to us if we are to learn to deal innocently and considerately with all creatures, as we are bound to if they possess reason and are of one stock with us. So we have no help or <pb xml:id="v.12.p.349"/> cure for this dilemma which either deprives us of life itself or of justice, unless we do preserve that ancient limitation and law by which, according to Hesiod,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title rend="italic">Works and Days</title>, 277-279; <foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> Aelian, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">De Natura Animal.</title> vi. 50; Mair on Oppian, <title rend="italic">Hal.</title> ii. 43.</note> he who distinguished the natural kinds and gave each class its special domain: <quote rend="blockquote"><l>To fish and beasts and winged birds allowed </l><l>Licence to eat each other, for no right </l><l>Exists among them; right, he gave to men</l></quote> for dealing with each other. Those who know nothing of right action toward us can receive no wrong from us either.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">This seems to have been Plutarch’s own attitude toward the question, at least later on in life; see <title rend="italic">Life of Cato Maior</title>, v. 2 (339 a).</note> For those who have rejected this argument have left no path, either broad or narrow, by which justice may slip in.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p rend="indent"><said who="#Autobulus"><label>AUTOBULUS.</label> This, my friend, has been spoken <q>from the heart.</q> <note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> Euripides, frag. 412 (Nauck, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Trag. Graec. Frag.</title> p. 486); quoted more completely in <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Mor.</title> 63 a.</note> We certainly must not allow philosophers, as though they were women in difficult labour, to put about their necks a charm for speedy delivery so that they may bring justice to birth for us easily and without hard labour. For they themselves do not concede to Epicurus,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Usener, <title rend="italic">Epicurea</title>, p. 351; see Bailey on Lucretius, ii. 216 ff.; <title rend="italic" xml:lang="lat">Mor.</title> 1015 b-c.</note> for the sake of the highest considerations, a thing so small and trifling as the slightest deviation of a single atom-which would permit the stars and living creatures to slip in by chance and would preserve from destruction the principle of free will. But, seeing that they bid him demonstrate whatever is not obvious or take as his starting-point something that is obvious, how are they <pb xml:id="v.12.p.351"/> in any position to make this statement about animals<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">That they are irrational.</note> a basis of their own account of justice, when it is neither generally accepted nor otherwise demonstrated by them?<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">For this difficult and corrupt passage the admirable exposition and reconstruction of F. H. Sandbach (<title rend="italic">Class. Quart.</title> xxxv, p. 114) has been followed.</note> For justice has another way to establish itself, a way which is neither so treacherous nor so precipitous, nor is it a route lined with the wreckage of obvious truths. It is the road which, under the guidance of Plato,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title rend="italic">Laws</title>, 782 c.</note> my son and your companion,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Plutarch himself; <foreign xml:lang="lat">cf. <title>Mor</title>.</foreign> 734 e.</note> Soclarus, points out to those who have no love of wrangling, but are willing to be led and to learn. For certain it is that Empedocles<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Diels-Kranz, <title xml:lang="deu" rend="italic">Frag. der Vorsok.</title> i, p. 366, frag. B 135; and see Aristotle, <title rend="italic">Rhetoric</title>, i, 13. 2 (1373 b 14).</note> and Heraclitus<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Diels-Kranz, <foreign xml:lang="lat">op. cit.</foreign> i, p. 169, frag. B 80; Bywater, frag. 62.</note> accept as true the charge that man is not altogether innocent of injustice when he treats animals as he does; often and often do they lament and exclaim against Nature, declaring that she is <q>Necessity</q> and <q>War,</q> that she contains nothing unmixed and free from tarnish, that her progress is marked by many unjust inflictions. As an instance, say. even birth itself springs from injustice, since it is a union of mortal with immortal, and the offspring is nourished unnaturally on members torn from the parent. </said></p><p rend="indent"><said rend="merge" who="#Autobulus">These strictures, however, seem to be unpalatably strong and bitter; for there is an alternative, an inoffensive formula which does not, on the one hand, deprive beasts of reason, yet does, on the other, preserve the justice of those who make fit use of them. When the wise men of old had introduced this, gluttony joined luxury to cancel and annul it; <pb xml:id="v.12.p.353"/> Pythagoras,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> 959 f <foreign xml:lang="lat">supra</foreign>; <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Mor.</title> 729 e; frag. xxxiv. 145 (vol. VII, p. 169 Bernardakis).</note> however, reintroduced it, teaching us how to profit without injustice. There is no injustice, surely, in punishing and slaying animals that are anti-social and merely injurious, while taming those that are gentle and friendly to man and making them our helpers in the tasks for which they are severally fitted by nature<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf., e.g.</foreign>, Plato, <title rend="italic">Republic</title>, 352 e.</note>: <quote rend="blockquote">Offspring of horse and ass and seed of bulls</quote> which Aeschylus’<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">From the <title rend="italic">Prometheus Unbound</title>, frag. 194 (Nauck, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Trag. Graec. Frag.</title> p. 65; quoted again in <title rend="italic" xml:lang="lat">Mor.</title> 98 c.</note> Prometheus says that he bestowed on us <quote rend="blockquote">To serve us and relieve our labours;</quote> and thus we make use of dogs as sentinels and keep herds of goats and sheep that are milked and shorn.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><q>There are significant undercurrents here. Of the animals domesticated by man. Plutarch first mentions only the horse, the ass, and the ox, nothing their employment as servants of man, not as sources of food. Next come dogs, then goats and sheep. The key factor is that in the early period the cow, the sheep, and the goat were too valuable as sources of milk and wool to be recklessly slaughtered for the sake of their meat. The pig was the only large domestic animal useful almost solely as a source of meat</q> (Andrews).</note> For living is not abolished nor life terminated when a man has no more platters of fish or pate de foie gras or mincemeat of beef or kids’ flesh for his banquets<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><q>Plutarch’s choice of examples of table luxury is apt. The enthusiasm of many Greek epicures for fish scandalized conservative philosophers. Pate de foie gras ranked high as a delicacy, more especially in the Roman period; the mincemeat mentioned is surely the Roman <foreign xml:lang="lat">isicia</foreign>, dishes with finely minced beef or pork as the usual basis, many recipes for which appear in Apicius</q> (Andrews).</note> - or when he no longer, idling in the theatre or hunting for sport, compels some beasts against their will to stand their ground and fight, while he destroys others which have not the instinct to fight back even in their own defence. For I think sport should be joyful and between playmates who are merry on <pb xml:id="v.12.p.355"/> both sides, not the sort of which Bion<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Bion and Xenocrates were almost alone among the Greeks in expressing pity for animals.</note> spoke when he remarked that boys throw stones at frogs for fun, but the frogs don’t die for <q>fun,</q> but in sober earnest.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">See Hartman, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">De Plutarcho</title>, p. 571; [Aristotle], <title rend="italic">Eud. Eth.</title> vii. 10. 21 (1243 a 20).</note> Just so, in hunting and fishing, men amuse themselves with the suffering and death of animals, even tearing some of them piteously from their cubs and nestlings. The fact is that it is not those who make use of animals who do them wrong, but those who use them harmfully and heedlessly and in cruel ways. </said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p rend="indent"><said who="#Soclarus"><label>SOCLARUS.</label> Restrain yourself, Autobulus, and turn off the flow of these accusations.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf. <title>Mor</title>.</foreign> 940 f <foreign xml:lang="lat">supra</foreign>. Possibly a reference to the water-clock used in the courts.</note> I see a good many gentlemen approaching who are all hunters; you will hardly convert them and you needn’t hurt their feelings. </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Autobulus"><label>AUTOBULUS.</label> Thanks for the warning. Eubiotus, however, I know quite well and my cousin Ariston, and Aeacides and Aristotimus here, the sons of Dionysius of Delphi, and Nicander, the son of Euthydamus, all of them <q>expert,</q> as Homer<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title rend="italic">Odyssey</title>, viii. 159.</note> expresses it, in the chase by land - and for this reason they will be on Aristotimus’ side. So too yonder comes Phaedimus with the islanders and coast-dwellers about him, Heracleon from Megara and the Euboean Philostratus, <quote rend="blockquote">Whose hearts are on deeds of the sea.<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><foreign xml:lang="lat">Cf.</foreign> Homer, <title rend="italic">Iliad</title>, ii. 614; <title rend="italic">Odyssey</title>, v. 67.</note> </quote> And here is my contemporary Optatus: like Diomedes, it is <quote rend="blockquote">Hard to tell the side on which he ranges,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Homer, <title rend="italic">Iliad</title>, v. 85.</note> </quote> <pb xml:id="v.12.p.357"/> for <q>with many a trophy from the sea, many likewise from the chase on the mountain, he has glorified</q> <note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Verses of an unknown poet, as recognized by Hubert.</note> the goddess<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Artemis; on the combined cults see Farnell, <title rend="italic">Cults of the Greek States</title>, ii, pp. 425 ff.</note> who is at once the Huntress and Dictynna. It is evident that he is coming to join us with no intention of attaching himself to either side. Or am I wrong, my dear Optatus, in supposing that you will be an impartial and neutral umpire between the young men ? </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Optatus"><label>OPTATUS.</label> It is just as you suppose, Autobulus. Solon’s<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true"><title rend="italic">Life of Solon</title>, xx. 1 (89 a-b); <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Mor.</title> 550 c, 823 f; Aristotle, <title rend="italic">Constitution of Athens</title>, viii. 5. A fairly well attested law, but <q>the name of Solon is used as the collective term for the legislative activity of the past</q> (Linforth, <title rend="italic">Solon the Athenian</title>, p. 283). The penalty was disfranchisement. Lysias, xxxi. shows that this law was unknown in his time.</note> law, which used to punish those who adhered to neither side in a factious outbreak, has long since fallen into disuse. </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Autobulus"><label>AUTOBULUS.</label> Come over here, then, and take your place beside us so that, if we need evidence, we shall not have to disturb the tomes of Aristotle,<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">The zoological works, such as the <title rend="italic">Natural History</title> and the <title rend="italic">Generation of Animals</title>, which once extended to fifty volumes (Pliny, <title rend="italic">Nat. Hist.</title> viii. 44).</note> but may follow you as expert and return a true verdict on the arguments. </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Soclarus"><label>SOCLARUS.</label> Well then, my young friends, have you reached any agreement on procedure ? </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Phaedimus"><label>PHAEDIMUS.</label> We have, Soclarus, though it occasioned considerable controversy; but at length, as Euripides<note resp="editor" place="unspecified" anchored="true">Nauck, <title xml:lang="lat" rend="italic">Trag. Graec. Frag.</title> p. 678, frag. 989; <foreign xml:lang="lat">cf. <title>Mor</title>.</foreign> 644 d.</note> has it, <quote rend="blockquote">The lot, the child of chance,</quote> made arbiter, admits into court the case of the land animals before that of creatures from the sea. </said></p><p rend="indent"><said who="#Soclarus"><label>SOCLARUS.</label> The time has come, then, Aristotimus, for you to speak and us to hear. <pb xml:id="v.12.p.359"/> </said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>