<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="edition" n="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="53"><p resp="perseus">But now indeede my burthen is great, that <name rend="italic">Plato</name> his name is laide vppon mee, whom I must confesse of all <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name>, I haue euer esteemed most worthie of reuerence ; and with good reason, since of all <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> hee is the most <name rend="italic">Poeticall: </name> yet if hee will defile the fountaine out of which his flowing streames haue proceeded, let vs boldly examine with what reasons hee did it . First truly a man might maliciously obiect, that <name rend="italic">Plato</name> being a <name rend="italic">Philosopher, </name> was a naturall enemy of <name rend="italic">Poets. </name> For indeede after the <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> had picked out of the sweete misteries of <name rend="italic">Poetrie, </name> the right discerning true points of knowledge: they foorthwith putting it in methode, and making a Schoole Art of that which the <name rend="italic">Poets</name> did onely teach by a diuine delightfulnes, beginning to spurne at their guides, like vngratefull Prentices, were not content to set vp shop for themselues, but sought by all meanes to discredit their maisters, which by the force of delight being barred them, the lesse they could ouerthrow them, the more they hated them. For indeed they found for <name rend="italic">Homer</name>, seuen Cities straue who should haue him for their Cittizen, where many Cities banished <name rend="italic">Philosophers, </name> as not fit members to liue among them. For onely repeating certaine of <name rend="italic">Euripides</name> verses, many <name rend="italic">Atheniens</name> had their liues saued of the <name rend="italic">Siracusans</name>; where the <name rend="italic">Atheniens</name> themselues thought many <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> vnworthie to liue. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="54"><p resp="perseus">Certaine <name rend="italic">Poets, </name> as <name rend="italic">Simonides, </name> and <name rend="italic">Pindarus</name>, had so preuailed with <name rend="italic">Hiero</name> the first, that of a Tyrant they made him a iust King: where <name rend="italic">Plato</name> could do so little with <name rend="italic">Dionisius</name>, that he himselfe of a <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name>, was made a slaue. But who should do thus, I confesse should requite the obiections made against <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, with like cauillations against <name rend="italic">Philosophers: </name> as likewise one should do, that should bid one read <name rend="italic">Phaedrus</name> or <name rend="italic">Simposium</name> in <name rend="italic">Plato</name>, or the discourse of loue in <name rend="italic">Plutarch</name>, and see whether any <name rend="italic">Poet</name> do authorise abhominable filthinesse as they doo. Againe, a man might aske, out of what Common-wealth <name rend="italic">Plato</name> doth banish them, in sooth, thence where he himselfe alloweth communitie of women. So as belike this banishment grew not for effeminate wantonnesse, since little should Poetical <name rend="italic">Sonnets</name> be hurtful, when a man might haue what woman he listed. But I honor Philosophicall instructions, and blesse the wits which bred them: so as they be not abused, which is likewise stretched to <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> <name rend="italic">S. Paul</name> himselfe sets a watch-word vppon <name rend="italic">Philosophie</name>, indeed vppon the abuse. So doth <name rend="italic">Plato</name> vppon the abuse, not vpon <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name>. <name rend="italic">Plato</name> found fault that the <name rend="italic">Poettes</name> of his time, filled the worlde with wrong opinions of the Gods, making light tales of that vnspotted essence ; and therfore wold not haue the youth depraued with such opinions: heerein may much be said ; let this suffice. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="55"><p resp="perseus">The <name rend="italic">Poets</name> did not induce such opinions, but did imitate those opinions alreadie induced. For all the <name rend="italic">Greeke</name> stories can well testifie, that the verie religion of that time, stood vpon many, and many fashioned Gods: Not taught so by <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, but followed according to their nature of imitation. Who list may read in <name rend="italic">Plutarch, </name> the discourses of <name rend="italic">Isis</name> and <name rend="italic">Osiis</name>, of the cause why Oracles ceased, of the diuine prouidence, &amp; see whether the <name rend="italic">Theology</name> of that nation, stood not vpon such dreams, which the <name rend="italic">Poets</name> indeede superstitiously obserued. And truly since they had not the light of Christ, did much better in it, then the <name rend="italic">Philosophers, </name>who shaking off superstition, brought in <name rend="italic">Atheisme</name>. <name rend="italic">Plato</name> therfore, whose authoritie, I had much rather iustly consture, then vniustly resist: ment not in generall of <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, in those words of which <name rend="italic">Iulius Scaliger</name> saith; <foreign xml:lang="lat">Qua authoritate barbari quidam atque hispidi abuti velint ad poetas et U+00E8 rep. Exigendos. </foreign> But only ment to driue out those wrong opinions of the Deitie: wherof now without further law, <name rend="italic">Christianitie</name> hath taken away all the hurtful beliefe, perchance as he thought nourished by then esteemed <name rend="italic">Poets</name>. And a man need go no further then to <name rend="italic">Plato</name> himselfe to knowe his meaning: who in his Dialogue called <name rend="italic">Ion</name>, giueth high, and rightly, diuine commendation vnto <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> So as <name rend="italic">Plato</name> banishing the abuse, not the thing, not banishing it, but giuing due honour to it, shall be our Patron, and not our aduersarie. For indeed, I had much rather, since truly I may do it, shew their mistaking of <name rend="italic">Plato</name>, vnder whose Lyons skinne, they would make an Aslike braying against <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>, then go about to ouerthrow his authoritie ; whome the wiser a man is, the more iust cause he shall finde to haue in admiration: especially since he attributeth vnto <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>, more then my selfe do ; namely, to be a verie inspiring of a diuine force, farre aboue mans wit, as in the forenamed Dialogue is apparant. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>