<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="edition" n="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="51"><p resp="perseus">Do we not see skill of Phisicke the best ramper to our often assaulted bodies, being abused, teach poyson the most violent destroyer ? Doth not knowledge of Law, whose end is, to euen &amp; right all things, being abused, grow the crooked fosterer of horrible iniuries? Doth not (to go to the highest) Gods word abused, breede heresie, and his name abused, become blasphemie? Truly a Needle cannot do much hurt, and as truly (with leaue of Ladies be it spoken) it cannot do much good. With a swoord thou maist kill thy Father, and with a swoord thou maist defende thy Prince and Countrey: so that, as in their calling <name rend="italic">Poets, </name>fathers of lies, they said nothing, so in this their argument of abuse, they prooue the commendation. They alledge herewith, that before <name rend="italic">Poets</name> began to be in price, our Nation had set their hearts delight vppon action, and not imagination, rather doing things worthie to be written, then writing things fit to be done. What that before time was, I think scarcely <name rend="italic">Spinx</name> can tell: since no memerie is so ancient, that hath not the precedens of <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> And certain it is, that in our plainest homelines, yet neuer was the <name rend="italic">Albion</name> Nation without <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> Marry this Argument, thou it be leuiled against <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name>, yet is it indeed a chain-shot against all learning or bookishnes, as they commonly terme it. Of such mind were certaine <name rend="italic">Gothes, </name> of whom it is written, that hauing in the spoile of a famous Cittie, taken a faire Librarie, one hangman belike fit to execute the frutes of their wits, who had murthered a great number of bodies, would haue set fire in it. No said an other verie grauely, take heed what you do, for while they are busie about those toyes, wee shall with more leisure conquere their Countries. This indeed is the ordinarie doctrine of ignorance, and many words sometimes I haue heard spent in it: but bicause this reason is generally against al learning, as wel as <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name>, or rather all learning but <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name>, because it were too large a digression to handle it, or at least too superfluous, since it is manifest that all gouernment of action is to be gotten by knowledge, and knowledge best, by gathering manie knowledges, which is reading; I onely with <name rend="italic">Horace</name>, to him that is of that opinion, <foreign xml:lang="lat">Iubio stultum esse libenter</foreign>: for as for <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name> it selfe, it is the freest from this obiection, for <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name> is the Companion of Camps. I dare vndertake, <name rend="italic">Orlando Furioso</name>, or honest king <name rend="italic">Arthure</name>, will neuer displease a souldier: but the quidditie of <foreign xml:lang="lat">Ens et Prima materia, </foreign> will hardly agree with a Corcelet. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="52"><p resp="perseus">And therefore as I said in the beginning, euen <name rend="italic">Turkes</name> and <name rend="italic">Tartars</name>, are delighted with <name rend="italic">Poets. </name> <name rend="italic">Homer</name> a <name rend="italic">Greeke</name>, flourished, before <name rend="italic">Greece</name> flourished: and if to a slight coniecture, a coniecture may bee apposed, truly it may seem, that as by him their learned men tooke almost their first light of knowledge, so their actiue men, receiued their first motions of courage. Onely <name rend="italic">Alexanders</name> example may serue, who by <name rend="italic">Plutarche</name> is accounted of such vertue, that fortune was not his guide, but his footestoole, whose Acts speake for him, though <name rend="italic">Plutarche</name> did not: indeede the <name rend="italic">Phoenix</name> of warlike Princes. This <name rend="italic">Alexander</name>, left his Schoolemaister liuing <name rend="italic">Aristotle</name> behinde him, but tooke dead <name rend="italic">Homer</name> with him. Hee put the Philosopher <name rend="italic">Callisthenes</name> to death, for his seeming Philosophicall, indeed mutinous stubbornnesse, but the chiefe thing hee was euer heard to wish for, was, that <name rend="italic">Homer</name> had bene aliue. Hee well founde hee receiued more brauerie of minde by paterne of <name rend="italic">Achilles</name>, then by hearing the definition of fortitude. And therefore if <name rend="italic">Cato</name> misliked <name rend="italic">Fuluius</name> for carrying <name rend="italic">Ennius</name> with him to the field, It may be answered, that if <name rend="italic">Cato</name> misliked it, the Noble <name rend="italic">Fuluius</name> liked it, or else he had not done it ; for it was not the excellent <name rend="italic">Cato Vticencis</name>, whose authoritie I would much more haue reuerenced: But it was the former, in truth a bitter punisher of faultes, but else a man that had neuer sacrificed to the <name rend="italic">Graces</name>. Hee misliked and cried out against all Greeke learning, and yet being foure score yeares olde beganne to learne it, belike fearing that <name rend="italic">Pluto</name> vnderstood not Latine. Indeed the <name rend="italic">Romane</name> lawes allowed no person to bee carried to the warres, but hee that was in the souldiers Role. And therefore though <name rend="italic">Cato</name> misliked his vnmustred person, he misliked not his worke. And if hee had, <name rend="italic">Scipio Nasica</name> (iudged by common consent the best <name rend="italic">Romane)</name> loued him: both the other <name rend="italic">Scipio</name> brothers, who had by their vertues no lesse surnames then of <name rend="italic">Asia</name> and <name rend="italic">Affricke</name>, so loued him, that they caused his bodie to be buried in their Sepulture. So as <name rend="italic">Catoes</name> authoritie beeing but against his person, and that answered with so farre greater then himselfe, is herein of no validitie. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="53"><p resp="perseus">But now indeede my burthen is great, that <name rend="italic">Plato</name> his name is laide vppon mee, whom I must confesse of all <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name>, I haue euer esteemed most worthie of reuerence ; and with good reason, since of all <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> hee is the most <name rend="italic">Poeticall: </name> yet if hee will defile the fountaine out of which his flowing streames haue proceeded, let vs boldly examine with what reasons hee did it . First truly a man might maliciously obiect, that <name rend="italic">Plato</name> being a <name rend="italic">Philosopher, </name> was a naturall enemy of <name rend="italic">Poets. </name> For indeede after the <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> had picked out of the sweete misteries of <name rend="italic">Poetrie, </name> the right discerning true points of knowledge: they foorthwith putting it in methode, and making a Schoole Art of that which the <name rend="italic">Poets</name> did onely teach by a diuine delightfulnes, beginning to spurne at their guides, like vngratefull Prentices, were not content to set vp shop for themselues, but sought by all meanes to discredit their maisters, which by the force of delight being barred them, the lesse they could ouerthrow them, the more they hated them. For indeed they found for <name rend="italic">Homer</name>, seuen Cities straue who should haue him for their Cittizen, where many Cities banished <name rend="italic">Philosophers, </name> as not fit members to liue among them. For onely repeating certaine of <name rend="italic">Euripides</name> verses, many <name rend="italic">Atheniens</name> had their liues saued of the <name rend="italic">Siracusans</name>; where the <name rend="italic">Atheniens</name> themselues thought many <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> vnworthie to liue. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="54"><p resp="perseus">Certaine <name rend="italic">Poets, </name> as <name rend="italic">Simonides, </name> and <name rend="italic">Pindarus</name>, had so preuailed with <name rend="italic">Hiero</name> the first, that of a Tyrant they made him a iust King: where <name rend="italic">Plato</name> could do so little with <name rend="italic">Dionisius</name>, that he himselfe of a <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name>, was made a slaue. But who should do thus, I confesse should requite the obiections made against <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, with like cauillations against <name rend="italic">Philosophers: </name> as likewise one should do, that should bid one read <name rend="italic">Phaedrus</name> or <name rend="italic">Simposium</name> in <name rend="italic">Plato</name>, or the discourse of loue in <name rend="italic">Plutarch</name>, and see whether any <name rend="italic">Poet</name> do authorise abhominable filthinesse as they doo. Againe, a man might aske, out of what Common-wealth <name rend="italic">Plato</name> doth banish them, in sooth, thence where he himselfe alloweth communitie of women. So as belike this banishment grew not for effeminate wantonnesse, since little should Poetical <name rend="italic">Sonnets</name> be hurtful, when a man might haue what woman he listed. But I honor Philosophicall instructions, and blesse the wits which bred them: so as they be not abused, which is likewise stretched to <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> <name rend="italic">S. Paul</name> himselfe sets a watch-word vppon <name rend="italic">Philosophie</name>, indeed vppon the abuse. So doth <name rend="italic">Plato</name> vppon the abuse, not vpon <name rend="italic">Poetrie</name>. <name rend="italic">Plato</name> found fault that the <name rend="italic">Poettes</name> of his time, filled the worlde with wrong opinions of the Gods, making light tales of that vnspotted essence ; and therfore wold not haue the youth depraued with such opinions: heerein may much be said ; let this suffice. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="55"><p resp="perseus">The <name rend="italic">Poets</name> did not induce such opinions, but did imitate those opinions alreadie induced. For all the <name rend="italic">Greeke</name> stories can well testifie, that the verie religion of that time, stood vpon many, and many fashioned Gods: Not taught so by <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, but followed according to their nature of imitation. Who list may read in <name rend="italic">Plutarch, </name> the discourses of <name rend="italic">Isis</name> and <name rend="italic">Osiis</name>, of the cause why Oracles ceased, of the diuine prouidence, &amp; see whether the <name rend="italic">Theology</name> of that nation, stood not vpon such dreams, which the <name rend="italic">Poets</name> indeede superstitiously obserued. And truly since they had not the light of Christ, did much better in it, then the <name rend="italic">Philosophers, </name>who shaking off superstition, brought in <name rend="italic">Atheisme</name>. <name rend="italic">Plato</name> therfore, whose authoritie, I had much rather iustly consture, then vniustly resist: ment not in generall of <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, in those words of which <name rend="italic">Iulius Scaliger</name> saith; <foreign xml:lang="lat">Qua authoritate barbari quidam atque hispidi abuti velint ad poetas et U+00E8 rep. Exigendos. </foreign> But only ment to driue out those wrong opinions of the Deitie: wherof now without further law, <name rend="italic">Christianitie</name> hath taken away all the hurtful beliefe, perchance as he thought nourished by then esteemed <name rend="italic">Poets</name>. And a man need go no further then to <name rend="italic">Plato</name> himselfe to knowe his meaning: who in his Dialogue called <name rend="italic">Ion</name>, giueth high, and rightly, diuine commendation vnto <name rend="italic">Poetrie. </name> So as <name rend="italic">Plato</name> banishing the abuse, not the thing, not banishing it, but giuing due honour to it, shall be our Patron, and not our aduersarie. For indeed, I had much rather, since truly I may do it, shew their mistaking of <name rend="italic">Plato</name>, vnder whose Lyons skinne, they would make an Aslike braying against <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>, then go about to ouerthrow his authoritie ; whome the wiser a man is, the more iust cause he shall finde to haue in admiration: especially since he attributeth vnto <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>, more then my selfe do ; namely, to be a verie inspiring of a diuine force, farre aboue mans wit, as in the forenamed Dialogue is apparant. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>