<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns:py="http://codespeak.net/lxml/objectify/pytype" py:pytype="TREE"><text><body><div type="edition" n="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="21"><p resp="perseus">Therfore compare we the <name rend="italic">Poet</name> with the <name rend="italic">Historian</name>, &amp; with the morall <name rend="italic">Philosopher: </name> and if hee goe beyond them both, no other humaine skill can match him. For as for the diuine, with all reuerence it is euer to be excepted, not onely for hauing his scope as far beyond any of these, as Eternitie exceedeth a moment: but euen for passing ech of these in themselues. And for the <name rend="italic">Lawier, </name> though <foreign xml:lang="lat">Ius</foreign> be the daughter of <name rend="italic">Iustice</name>, the chiefe of vertues, yet because he seeks to make men good, rather <foreign xml:lang="lat">formidine poenae, </foreign> then <foreign xml:lang="lat">virtutis amore: </foreign> or to say righter, doth not endeuor to make men good, but that their euill hurt not others, hauing no care so he be a good citizen, how bad a man he be. Therfore as our wickednes maketh him necessarie, and necessitie maketh him honorable, so is he not in the deepest truth to stand in ranck with these, who al endeuour to take naughtinesse away, and plant goodnesse euen in the secretest cabinet of our soules: and these foure are all that any way deale in the consideration of mens manners, which being the supreme knowledge, they that best breed it, deserue the best commendation. The <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> therefore, and the <name rend="italic">Historian</name>, are they which would win the goale, the one by precept, the other by example: but both, not hauing both, doo both halt. For the <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> set- ting downe with thornie arguments, the bare rule, is so hard of vtterance, and so mistie to be conceiued, that one that hath no other guide but him, shall wade in him till he be old, before he shall finde sufficient cause to be honest. For his knowledge standeth so vpon the abstract and generall that happie is that man who may vnderstand him, and more happie, that can apply what he doth vnderstand. On the other side, the <name rend="italic">Historian</name> wanting the precept, is so tied, not to what should be, but to what is, to the particular truth of things, and not to the general reason of things, that his example draweth no necessarie consequence, and therefore a lesse fruitfull doctrine. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="22"><p resp="perseus">Now doth the peerlesse Poet performe both, for whatsoeuer the <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> saith should be done, he giues a perfect picture of it by some one, by whom he presupposeth it was done, so as he coupleth the generall notion with the particuler example. A perfect picture I say, for hee yeeldeth to the powers of the minde an image of that whereof the <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> bestoweth but a wordish description, which doth neither strike, pearce, nor possesse, the sight of the soule so much, as that other doth. For as in outward things to a man that had neuer seene an <name rend="italic">Elephant</name>, or a <name rend="italic">Rinoceros</name>, who should tell him most exquisitely all their shape, cullour, bignesse, and particuler marks, or of a gorgious pallace an <name rend="italic">Architecture</name>, who decla- ring the full bewties, might well make the hearer able to repeat as it were by roat all he had heard, yet should neuer satisfie his inward conceit, with being witnesse to it selfe of a true liuely knowledge: but the same man, assoon as he might see those beasts wel painted, or that house wel in modell, shuld straightwaies grow without need of any description to a iudicial comprehending of them, so no doubt the <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> with his learned definitions, be it of vertues of vices, matters of publike policy or priuat gouernment, replenisheth the memorie with many infallible grounds of wisdom, which notwithstanding lie darke before the imaginatiue and iudging power, if they be not illuminated or figured forth by the speaking picture of <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="23"><p resp="perseus"><name rend="italic">Tully</name> taketh much paines, and many times not without Poeticall helpes to make vs know the force, loue of our country hath in vs. Let vs but heare old <name rend="italic">Anchices</name>, speaking in the middest of <name rend="italic">Troies</name> flames, or see <name rend="italic">Vlisses</name> in the fulnesse of all <name rend="italic">Calipsoes</name> delightes, bewaile his absence from barraine and beggerly <name rend="italic">Ithecæ</name>. Anger the <name rend="italic">Stoickes</name> said, was a short madnesse: let but <name rend="italic">Sophocles</name> bring you <name rend="italic">Aiax</name> on a stage, killing or whipping sheepe and oxen, thinking them the Army of Greekes, with their Chieftaines <name rend="italic">Agamemnon</name>, and <name rend="italic">Menelaus: </name> and tell me if you haue not a more familiar insight into Anger, then finding in the schoolemen his <name rend="italic">Genus</name> and <name rend="italic">Difference</name>. See whether wisdom and temperance in <name rend="italic">Vlisses</name> and <name rend="italic">Diomedes</name>, valure in <name rend="italic">Achilles, </name> friendship in <name rend="italic">Nisus</name> and <name rend="italic">Eurialus</name>, euen to an ignorant man carry not an apparant shining: and contrarily, the remorse of conscience in <name rend="italic">Oedipus</name>; the soone repenting pride in <name rend="italic">Agamemnon</name>; the selfe deuouring crueltie in his father <name rend="italic">Atreus</name> ; the violence of ambition in the two <name rend="italic">Theban</name> brothers; the sower sweetnesse of reuenge in <name rend="italic">Medea</name>; and to fall lower, the <name rend="italic">Terentian Gnato</name>, and our <name rend="italic">Chawcers Pander</name> so exprest, that we now vse their names, to signifie their Trades: and finally, all vertues, vices, and passions, so in their owne naturall states, laide to the view, that we seeme not to heare of them, but clearly to see through them. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="24"><p resp="perseus">But euen in the most excellent determination of goodnesse, what <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> counsaile can so readely direct a Prince, as the feined <name rend="italic">Cirus</name> in <name rend="italic">Xenophon</name>, or a vertuous man in all fortunes: as <name rend="italic">Aeneas</name> in <name rend="italic">Virgill</name>, or a whole Common-wealth, as the Way of Sir Thomas Moores <name rend="italic">Eutopia</name>. I say the Way, because where Sir Thomas Moore erred, it was the fault of the man and not of the Poet: for that Way of patterning a Common-wealth, was most absolute though hee perchaunce hath not so absolutely performed it. For the question is, whether the fained Image of Poetrie, or the reguler instruction of Philosophie, hath the more force in teaching ? Wherein if the <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> haue more rightly shew- ed themselues <name rend="italic">Philosophers</name> then the <name rend="italic">Poets</name>, haue atteined to the high toppe of their profession(as in truth <foreign xml:lang="lat">Mediocribus esse poetis non Dii, non homines, non concessere columnae</foreign>, ) it is (I say againe) not the fault of the Art, but that by fewe men that Art can be accomplished. Certainly euen our Sauiour Christ could as well haue giuen the morall comon places of vncharitablenesse and humblenesse, as the diuine narration of <name rend="italic">Diues</name> and <name rend="italic">Lazarus</name>, or of disobedience and mercy, as that heauenly discourse of the lost childe and the gracious Father, but that his through searching wisdome, knew the estate of <name rend="italic">Diues</name> burning in hell, and of <name rend="italic">Lazarus</name> in <name rend="italic">Abrahams</name> bosome, would more constantly as it were, inhabit both the memorie and iudgement. Truly for my selfe(mee seemes) I see before mine eyes, the lost childs disdainful prodigalitie, turned to enuy a Swines dinner: which by the learned <name rend="italic">Diuines</name> are thought not Historical acts, but instructing Parables. For conclusion, I say the <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name> teacheth, but he teacheth obscurely, so as the learned onely can vnderstand him, that is to say, he teacheth them that are alreadie taught. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="paragraph" xml:base="urn:cts:engLit:sidney.defence.perseus-eng1" n="25"><p resp="perseus">But the Poet is the food for the tendrest stomacks, the Poet is indeed, the right populer <name rend="italic">Philosopher</name>. Whereof <name rend="italic">Esops</name> Tales giue good proofe, whose prettie Allegories stealing vnder the formall Tales of beastes, makes many more beastly then beasts: begin to hear the sound of vertue from those dumbe speakers. But now may it be alleadged, that if this imagining of matters be so fit for the imagination, then must the <name rend="italic">Historian</name> needs surpasse, who brings you images of true matters, such as indeed were done, and not such as fantastically or falsly may be suggested to haue bin done. Truly <name rend="italic">Aristotle</name> himselfe in his discourse of <name rend="italic">Poesie</name>, plainly determineth this question, saying, that <name rend="italic"> Poetrie</name> is <foreign xml:lang="grc">φιλοσοπηώτερον</foreign>, and <foreign xml:lang="grc">σπουδαιότερον</foreign>, that is to say, it is more Philosophicall and more then History. His reason is, because <name rend="italic">Poesie</name> dealeth with <foreign xml:lang="grc">καθόλου</foreign>, that is to say, with the vniuersall consideration, and the Historie with <foreign xml:lang="grc">καθ’ ἔκαστον</foreign>, the particular. Now saith he, the vniuersall wayes what is fit to be said or done, either in likelihood or necessitie, which the <name rend="italic">Poesie</name> considereth in his imposed names: and the particular onely marketh whether <name rend="italic">Alcibiades</name> did or suffered this or that. Thus farre <name rend="italic">Aristotle</name>. Which reason of his, as all his is most full of reason. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>